Enigma
01-13-2010, 02:46 PM
Hello legacy lovers!
Montreal's team is back from Vestal with a not so glorious achievement but I still wanted to make this report as I think this deck needs more feedback from the community. I finished 15th with 5-2, taking 4 Verdant Catacombs and one of my teammate 18th with 5-2 also, while playing GWB Survival Order (with Retainer/Iona). While 4 Verdant Catacombs is not as good as a mox pearl (http://www.mtgthesource.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15509), I'm still very satisfied with this tournament, mostly because I felt confidant in all my matches.
We left friday from Montreal to Vestal at 14:00, arriving at 20:15, mostly because of the weather between Syracuse and Binghamton. We arrived there, took a look at Eli's "new" store, bought a couple of cards/game and we were ready for a good night before the tournament. Hell thanks to Murray who's working for Hilton and make our weekend soooo much cheaper. 30$ a night diveded by 4 in a 150$/night hotel is what we call, "un osti de bon prix".
82 players, 7 rounds. Mox and fetches added to the prices.
List:
// Lands
1 Island
2 Volcanic Island
3 Tundra
4 Tropical Island
2 Flooded Strand
4 Misty Rainforest
2 Polluted Delta
1 Dryad Arbor
1 Forest
// Creatures
4 Tarmogoyf
3 Rhox War Monk
1 Progenitus
3 Wall of Roots
// Spells
3 Firespout
4 Swords to Plowshares
4 Sensei's Divining Top
4 Brainstorm
4 Force of Will
3 Daze
4 Counterbalance
3 Natural Order
// Sideboard
SB: 2 Krosan Grip
SB: 1 Ancient Grudge
SB: 1 Trygon Predator
SB: 2 Tormod's Crypt
SB: 2 Thwart
SB: 2 Relic of Progenitus
SB: 2 Engineered Explosives
SB: 1 Llawan, Cephalid Empress
SB: 2 Pithing Needle
Round 1:
Against Harry Matten Gillen (hungryLIKEALION (http://www.mtgthesource.com/forums/member.php?u=15494)), playing Zoo
He wins the die roll.
1st game: He goes for Figure first turn and start a slow beating. When he lands a second creature I firespout em away and play a Tarmogoyf. I swords one of his, he paths mine, and we go back and forth a bit, while he is applying some damages with an exalted second goyf. I only find creatures from my Top and in a turn, I add a second goyf to my battlefield and a RWM, feeling pretty confidant with my chances to recover at 6 lifes. Well the 2 cards he has in hand are Chain and Bolt, so go to game 2.
SB: -2 Daze, +2 E.E.
2nd game: I blindly play E.E. at 1 and pass. He plays Figure again. 2nd turn I land Wall of roots, go. He plays Qasali. I firespout away his board and the turn after I have a Progenitus in play.
3rd game: He goes 1st turn Figure again. I play top. Spin at my turn and only see creatures. Damn. The game goes pretty much like the first one, except we exchange a lot of E.E., both side. I never find CB nor Natural Order and I eventually lose to a 6 damage pop.
0-1
Round 2:
Against Jeff playing Eva Green
I win the die roll.
1st game: I lock him with CB pretty quickly and all he's able to do is landing a Tombstalker. I fetch to find a STP, but instead I find Natural Order, saccing my wall and winning the race while I have plenty of creatures to sacrifice to Gatekeeper.
SB: +2 E.E., -2 Firespout
2nd game: Swamp, go. Volcanic, Go. Dark ritual, yes, Thoughtseize, Brainstorm in response, hiding CB and a 2CC. He takes a Sword and play choke. Ouch. I eventually have Wall of roots to spin my top but after he kills it, I scoop and go to g3
3rd game: He has early hippy, but I have top to hide good cards. He lands Tombstalker but I have NO the turn after which win the race because of a well timed Swords to plowshares.
1-1
Round 3:
Against Jim playing T.E.S.
I win the die roll. I know he plays TES.
1st game: I open with CB Top and 2 dazes and he doesn't duress me first turn. After having CB/Top assembled I start swinging with RWM. He eventually tries an hardcasted Ad Nauseam but I have a Force on top.
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/118787/VestalJan10/IMGP1865.JPG
SB: +2 Thwart, +1 Grudge, +1 Trygon, +2 E.E., -4 NO/Pro, -2 Wall
2nd game: I open an even better hand of Top, Cb, Rwm, Force, Force, land, Fetch. I land CB top, then an other top, than a RWM and I eventually build a hand like: Force, Force, Thwart, Thwart, Daze. Love you blue cards!
2-1
Round 4:
Against Ron playing Eva Green
Have I mentionned how I like facing this deck? Guys stop playing it, it's terrible.
I win the die roll.
1st Game: I open a one lander with Brainstorm, Fow, CB, Top. I'm generaly ballsy with these hands and keep. Tropical, go. Wasteland, crack, brainstorm in response, NO, NO, Firespout... ouch. Draw, go. Thoughtseize, scoop.
SB: +2 E.E. -2 Firespout
2nd Game: 3 goyfs hand are so good against this kind of deck. It wins by itself.
3rd game: he mulls to 5 and I kill his creature, land a wall of roots, goyf, goyf. He never finds his green source and I get a free win. I felt sorry for that, as I pretty much didn't deserve to win this 2 of 3, but eh. Goyfs > empty board.
3-1
Round 5:
Against Brandon playing poissons (Merfolks)
He wins the die roll.
1st game: He goes for first turn vial. I have Cb/Top assembled quickly but it doesn't do anything. Third turn I land RWM, but he plays eot Reejerey, plays a creature that resolves, attack for 14 with his 4 guys against my tapped RWM. I firespout at my turn and start swinging back my life total. I STP his Mutavault and counter his lords with CB/Top (his vial is at 3).
SB: +1 Llawan, +2 Needle, +2 EE, -4 CB, -1 NO
2nd game: He goes first turn vial. Land for me, go. He land, go. I BS eot and he counter it with Cursecather vialed in. At my turn I play Needle without a 2nd land, naming vial. He plays LOA, which I force. I draw into a second land and play Wall of roots, which he forces. Fine. I play an other one at my turn, and 3 turns later he's getting ate by big big hydras.
4-1
Round 6:
Against Shawn King playing Dream halls.
I win the die roll.
1st game: I have early top and goyf. He has infinite cantrips. He goes for Dream Halls, I force, He forces back. with only 3 cards in hand. Ok. He discard a card, plays a Progenitus. At my turn I cast NO, killing both progenitus and attack with Goyf, reducing his life total to 9 with only 1 card in hand. He draws, discard brainstorm, plays Progenitus. What?! that's unfair!! I do not find a second force nor a second NO and i lose.
SB: +2 Grip, +2 Thwart, +1 Trygon, +1 Llawan, -3 Firespout, -3 STP
2nd game: He early intuition into his second island, I play CB top, trying to stop his cantrips and maybe finding a force somewhere. I counter his Show and tell with a RWM on top and a turn later he casts Dream halls. I have Tundra, Tropical, Fetch. I look at top 3 and see RWM, Shit, Grip. I'm mitigated as if I take Grip, I lose my top and I don't have an answer to neither Conflux or Progenitus. I'm guessing he has Progenitus because he played show and tell a turn before. But let's say he doesnt. He plays Dream halls, I response by taking Grip, fetching, ok. He plays Conflux, I grip in response. He can still find an other Dream halls from it and without Top, I'm pretty much out of answer. So I decide to fetch and try finding a 5 CC or 1 of my 6 "FOW". I fail and loose to Conflux/Cruel loop.
4-2
Round 7:
Against John playing Deadguy Ale
I win the die roll.
1st game: I lock him with CB, land goyf, swords his Tombstalkers.
SB: I do not remember. He had Mom so I guess I brought E.E., maybe taking out Dazes. Yeah, +2 EE, +1 Grudge (he was playing Jitte and Top), -3 Daze.
2nd game: He slows my goyf beatdown with 2 MoM. I firespout 1 of them with 1 hippy. I eventually have RWM, Goyf, Goyf, I'm able to tricks him with a 4/5 goyf, blocking Tombstalker, flashback grudge for his Jitte, swording Mom that blocked the other goyf. I firespout the rest of his battlefield at my next turn and attack for the win.
5-2
Props:
Sourcers are so great to meet.
4 Verdant Catacombs, already sold to my mate
Justin N. (psu42), for his crazy good idea of putting Natural Order in Supreme blue shell
GWB Survival with Natural Order AND Retainer/Iona
jimirynk, so kind.
Eli and CDR for their GREEEAAAAT job
CDR again for his excellent coverage, while being alone to do everything
Slops:
Applebee's
Tony T's Line up
How Vestal can be colder than Montreal??
goobafish, going to montreal to play PTQ extended while we are going to Vestal, haha
Hope to see you again!
P-M
Montreal's team is back from Vestal with a not so glorious achievement but I still wanted to make this report as I think this deck needs more feedback from the community. I finished 15th with 5-2, taking 4 Verdant Catacombs and one of my teammate 18th with 5-2 also, while playing GWB Survival Order (with Retainer/Iona). While 4 Verdant Catacombs is not as good as a mox pearl (http://www.mtgthesource.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15509), I'm still very satisfied with this tournament, mostly because I felt confidant in all my matches.
We left friday from Montreal to Vestal at 14:00, arriving at 20:15, mostly because of the weather between Syracuse and Binghamton. We arrived there, took a look at Eli's "new" store, bought a couple of cards/game and we were ready for a good night before the tournament. Hell thanks to Murray who's working for Hilton and make our weekend soooo much cheaper. 30$ a night diveded by 4 in a 150$/night hotel is what we call, "un osti de bon prix".
82 players, 7 rounds. Mox and fetches added to the prices.
List:
// Lands
1 Island
2 Volcanic Island
3 Tundra
4 Tropical Island
2 Flooded Strand
4 Misty Rainforest
2 Polluted Delta
1 Dryad Arbor
1 Forest
// Creatures
4 Tarmogoyf
3 Rhox War Monk
1 Progenitus
3 Wall of Roots
// Spells
3 Firespout
4 Swords to Plowshares
4 Sensei's Divining Top
4 Brainstorm
4 Force of Will
3 Daze
4 Counterbalance
3 Natural Order
// Sideboard
SB: 2 Krosan Grip
SB: 1 Ancient Grudge
SB: 1 Trygon Predator
SB: 2 Tormod's Crypt
SB: 2 Thwart
SB: 2 Relic of Progenitus
SB: 2 Engineered Explosives
SB: 1 Llawan, Cephalid Empress
SB: 2 Pithing Needle
Round 1:
Against Harry Matten Gillen (hungryLIKEALION (http://www.mtgthesource.com/forums/member.php?u=15494)), playing Zoo
He wins the die roll.
1st game: He goes for Figure first turn and start a slow beating. When he lands a second creature I firespout em away and play a Tarmogoyf. I swords one of his, he paths mine, and we go back and forth a bit, while he is applying some damages with an exalted second goyf. I only find creatures from my Top and in a turn, I add a second goyf to my battlefield and a RWM, feeling pretty confidant with my chances to recover at 6 lifes. Well the 2 cards he has in hand are Chain and Bolt, so go to game 2.
SB: -2 Daze, +2 E.E.
2nd game: I blindly play E.E. at 1 and pass. He plays Figure again. 2nd turn I land Wall of roots, go. He plays Qasali. I firespout away his board and the turn after I have a Progenitus in play.
3rd game: He goes 1st turn Figure again. I play top. Spin at my turn and only see creatures. Damn. The game goes pretty much like the first one, except we exchange a lot of E.E., both side. I never find CB nor Natural Order and I eventually lose to a 6 damage pop.
0-1
Round 2:
Against Jeff playing Eva Green
I win the die roll.
1st game: I lock him with CB pretty quickly and all he's able to do is landing a Tombstalker. I fetch to find a STP, but instead I find Natural Order, saccing my wall and winning the race while I have plenty of creatures to sacrifice to Gatekeeper.
SB: +2 E.E., -2 Firespout
2nd game: Swamp, go. Volcanic, Go. Dark ritual, yes, Thoughtseize, Brainstorm in response, hiding CB and a 2CC. He takes a Sword and play choke. Ouch. I eventually have Wall of roots to spin my top but after he kills it, I scoop and go to g3
3rd game: He has early hippy, but I have top to hide good cards. He lands Tombstalker but I have NO the turn after which win the race because of a well timed Swords to plowshares.
1-1
Round 3:
Against Jim playing T.E.S.
I win the die roll. I know he plays TES.
1st game: I open with CB Top and 2 dazes and he doesn't duress me first turn. After having CB/Top assembled I start swinging with RWM. He eventually tries an hardcasted Ad Nauseam but I have a Force on top.
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/118787/VestalJan10/IMGP1865.JPG
SB: +2 Thwart, +1 Grudge, +1 Trygon, +2 E.E., -4 NO/Pro, -2 Wall
2nd game: I open an even better hand of Top, Cb, Rwm, Force, Force, land, Fetch. I land CB top, then an other top, than a RWM and I eventually build a hand like: Force, Force, Thwart, Thwart, Daze. Love you blue cards!
2-1
Round 4:
Against Ron playing Eva Green
Have I mentionned how I like facing this deck? Guys stop playing it, it's terrible.
I win the die roll.
1st Game: I open a one lander with Brainstorm, Fow, CB, Top. I'm generaly ballsy with these hands and keep. Tropical, go. Wasteland, crack, brainstorm in response, NO, NO, Firespout... ouch. Draw, go. Thoughtseize, scoop.
SB: +2 E.E. -2 Firespout
2nd Game: 3 goyfs hand are so good against this kind of deck. It wins by itself.
3rd game: he mulls to 5 and I kill his creature, land a wall of roots, goyf, goyf. He never finds his green source and I get a free win. I felt sorry for that, as I pretty much didn't deserve to win this 2 of 3, but eh. Goyfs > empty board.
3-1
Round 5:
Against Brandon playing poissons (Merfolks)
He wins the die roll.
1st game: He goes for first turn vial. I have Cb/Top assembled quickly but it doesn't do anything. Third turn I land RWM, but he plays eot Reejerey, plays a creature that resolves, attack for 14 with his 4 guys against my tapped RWM. I firespout at my turn and start swinging back my life total. I STP his Mutavault and counter his lords with CB/Top (his vial is at 3).
SB: +1 Llawan, +2 Needle, +2 EE, -4 CB, -1 NO
2nd game: He goes first turn vial. Land for me, go. He land, go. I BS eot and he counter it with Cursecather vialed in. At my turn I play Needle without a 2nd land, naming vial. He plays LOA, which I force. I draw into a second land and play Wall of roots, which he forces. Fine. I play an other one at my turn, and 3 turns later he's getting ate by big big hydras.
4-1
Round 6:
Against Shawn King playing Dream halls.
I win the die roll.
1st game: I have early top and goyf. He has infinite cantrips. He goes for Dream Halls, I force, He forces back. with only 3 cards in hand. Ok. He discard a card, plays a Progenitus. At my turn I cast NO, killing both progenitus and attack with Goyf, reducing his life total to 9 with only 1 card in hand. He draws, discard brainstorm, plays Progenitus. What?! that's unfair!! I do not find a second force nor a second NO and i lose.
SB: +2 Grip, +2 Thwart, +1 Trygon, +1 Llawan, -3 Firespout, -3 STP
2nd game: He early intuition into his second island, I play CB top, trying to stop his cantrips and maybe finding a force somewhere. I counter his Show and tell with a RWM on top and a turn later he casts Dream halls. I have Tundra, Tropical, Fetch. I look at top 3 and see RWM, Shit, Grip. I'm mitigated as if I take Grip, I lose my top and I don't have an answer to neither Conflux or Progenitus. I'm guessing he has Progenitus because he played show and tell a turn before. But let's say he doesnt. He plays Dream halls, I response by taking Grip, fetching, ok. He plays Conflux, I grip in response. He can still find an other Dream halls from it and without Top, I'm pretty much out of answer. So I decide to fetch and try finding a 5 CC or 1 of my 6 "FOW". I fail and loose to Conflux/Cruel loop.
4-2
Round 7:
Against John playing Deadguy Ale
I win the die roll.
1st game: I lock him with CB, land goyf, swords his Tombstalkers.
SB: I do not remember. He had Mom so I guess I brought E.E., maybe taking out Dazes. Yeah, +2 EE, +1 Grudge (he was playing Jitte and Top), -3 Daze.
2nd game: He slows my goyf beatdown with 2 MoM. I firespout 1 of them with 1 hippy. I eventually have RWM, Goyf, Goyf, I'm able to tricks him with a 4/5 goyf, blocking Tombstalker, flashback grudge for his Jitte, swording Mom that blocked the other goyf. I firespout the rest of his battlefield at my next turn and attack for the win.
5-2
Props:
Sourcers are so great to meet.
4 Verdant Catacombs, already sold to my mate
Justin N. (psu42), for his crazy good idea of putting Natural Order in Supreme blue shell
GWB Survival with Natural Order AND Retainer/Iona
jimirynk, so kind.
Eli and CDR for their GREEEAAAAT job
CDR again for his excellent coverage, while being alone to do everything
Slops:
Applebee's
Tony T's Line up
How Vestal can be colder than Montreal??
goobafish, going to montreal to play PTQ extended while we are going to Vestal, haha
Hope to see you again!
P-M