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godryk
03-07-2010, 03:03 PM
*****EDITED TO ADD MORE VIDS*****

As some guys already noticed in the venue, several people were recording the final matchup of the GP Madrid 2010. Please note that nobody planned on recording this, they just got they cameras/phones out of their pockets and started recording. Thanks a lot to all the people recording this.


GP Madrid 2010 - Final
Andreas Muller (Reanimator) VS David Do Ahn (Ad Nauseam Tendrils)


Cadena de Vapor Association (http://www.cadenadevapor.es/) version

G1 (1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1DOxBwdgxDk)/2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dj51ypm3Uiw))
G2 (1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mK4Si-RzYG4)/2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snNdxNJDrNY))
G3 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8ehgHE03bY)


Rufino Parra's (http://www.thecouncil.es/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=1985) version

G1 (1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWyLia0piOc)/2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHtxrAldWn4))
G2 (1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JytxrHemYo4)/2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R20rb1FTl))
G3 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hq3bXlz9gXM)
Excuse the lack of sound. I was its first video editing attempt. I also have to point out that his IPhone ran off battery just before Do Ahn started revealing with Ad Nauseam, so he kind of fixed it up.

Waikiki
03-07-2010, 03:30 PM
Unlucky storm combo :<

emidln
03-07-2010, 05:13 PM
That wasn't luck. That was a mistake causing a gameloss.

Zinch
03-07-2010, 09:33 PM
If you're referring to the third match, I think it wasn't a mistake, he didn't have any mana source so he has to keep revealing.

Nihil Credo
03-07-2010, 10:45 PM
I think that what emidln is saying is that Do Anh could have kept Mystical, DR, DR, Cabal, IGG, then probably Chant and land, I'm not completely sure which is optimal. That hand can get rid of Iona and can survive pretty much anything Müller can muster in one turn (considering he was out of free countermagic, had already played one of his two Thoughtseizes, and after Dazing only had one land in play and three unknown cards + the Island in hand). Make 10-11 mana, Chant, IGG into mana/mana/Infernal (or into Tendrils/Cabal/Infernal if he topdecks the Tendrils), Tendrils for 18.

Hard to blame him much for not doing that level of calculations after 20 matches, though. The 1x Tendrils was the only lethal card left in his deck, while hitting one of his five free mana sources meant an instant win.

Zinch
03-08-2010, 12:49 AM
I see. I haven't contemplated the posibility of not comboing that turn...

dyzzy
03-08-2010, 01:58 AM
Now I don't claim to be a good player but what I want to know is:
Game 1, why didn't Muller take the Infernal Tutor with Thoughtseize?
Game 2, what color did Muller put Iona on and why wasn't it black?

Yulyn
03-08-2010, 02:33 AM
Now I don't claim to be a good player but what I want to know is:
Game 1, why didn't Muller take the Infernal Tutor with Thoughtseize?
Game 2, what color did Muller put Iona on and why wasn't it black?

@G1 I dunno I was thinking the same
@G2 I think it was blue because if he puts her on black she gets bounced by wipe away or something like that

Rune
03-08-2010, 03:00 AM
Now I don't claim to be a good player but what I want to know is:
Game 1, why didn't Muller take the Infernal Tutor with Thoughtseize?


His play indicates that he is only afraid of Do Anh's ability to find protection (Ponder) and not his ability to go off (Tutor). This should tell Do Anh that Muller has FoW, but he doesn't care and plays out his hand anyway, so it has to either be a misplay by Muller or just a very risky bluff.

emidln
03-08-2010, 10:37 AM
No. He cast Mystical Tutor before Thoughtseize resolved in game 3 which was a blatent fuck up.

Here's how it goes if he doesn't punt:

In Hand:

Infernal Tutor
Mystical Tutor
LED
LED
Petal

If the opponent takes Infernal Tutor:

Eot Spin top, take the best card. Untap, Petal, LED, LED, Mystical for Ad Nauseam, SDT into Ad Nauseam breaking LEDs with lots of mana floating.

If the opponent takes Mystical Tutor:

Eot Spin top, take the best card. Untap, Petal, LED, LED, Infernal Tutor for Ad Nauseam (obv breaking LEDs) floating 2 mana (1 after the Daze).

If the opponent takes something else:

Eot Mystical (the opponent let it resolve anyway, which was a mistake, but if he's going to let it resolve, fine) for Dark Ritual. Untap, Petal, Dark Ritual, LED, LED/Petal, Infernal Tutor->Ad Nauseam with 1 mana floating (if his opponent took an LED and pays for the Daze, 2 mana floating if he took Petal), but he still has his land drop left.

Alternately, you could endstep SDT looking for a land or acceleration spell. A land lets you play around Daze on Mystical Tutor in your upkeep but leaves you in the no land drop situation if he Dazes Ad Nauseam. Any other acceleration lets you play around Daze completely. Failing to find acceleration or a land would mean you can't go off that turn though (through Daze anyway).

Julian23
03-08-2010, 12:22 PM
Game 2 Part 1 Müller should have tutored for Force instead of Thoughtseize then exhume Iona on his turn (with the Exhume/Reanimate(?) in hand, I was standing behind him) and have Force protection up. I think.

godryk
03-08-2010, 06:34 PM
Just edited the opening post to add another recording of the finals, in case someone feels like watching it.

gottfrid
03-15-2010, 03:26 PM
I was also standing behind muller in that game and was surprised by the mistake of taking thoughtseize with m. tutor and refraining from exhuming in iona that turn.

Not seeing the correct play because he played magic for 14 hours would be an acceptable excuse for a misplay in the finals. The way he played it was trying too hard to tech when the correct play was the most intuitive one. Than is just poor play and I think Do Anh deserved to win better.