SpikeyMikey
08-13-2011, 07:20 PM
Gentlemen -
I know that everyone is excited about the new format. And I know that there's this shiny (relatively) empty forum to post in. But one of the things that makes me proud to post at the Source is the quality of the posts here. And while this is not a DtB/LMF or Established forum, I'm seeing a lot of posts that read:
"Hey, this is my idea for a deck. I have never actually played a game of Modern or done any research on the format, but I think this would make a good place to start because [insert poorly reasoned statement here]. This list is not tuned or tested and I haven't even counted it to make sure it's 75 cards, but I would like someone else to play with it and fix it for me."
We're better than that guys. The forum will still be here tomorrow after you've done some bare minimum testing to make sure that your deck isn't a pile of dogshit. Don't start a thread that's just going to die an ignoble death in the next 24 hours because you had temporary diarhea of the fingers. Pro tip: if you can't put a sideboard together for the deck, don't post it. You need to know what your deck is weak to before you start trying to improve it. Adding Firespouts when you already curbstomp Zoo is dumb, but if you don't know that you already beat Zoo, you may just try it. Then you look like an asshole.
As a corollary, there are several existing forums and results from 1 tournament that can be used as research. So when you say "I think Modern will look like 'x' because cards 'y' and 'z' are just killer", if you haven't spent 15 minutes researching to make sure that cards y and z actually impact the format, you look like an asshole. Tarmogoyf is not the best card in this format. If I read you saying that it is, I immediately ignore anything further that you've written because you obviously haven't done your homework. If you say that Hive Mind is the best card in the format, well then I may disagree with you, but at least I'll know that you know your shit and that your opinion is to be respected.
Also, you can't just port your favorite deck from Standard/Legacy/previous Extended/whatever. The format operates differently. While there are occasionally successful ports from one format to another, these are done by people who understand both formats and see an opportunity for a single strategy to function well against the field in both. Just as Ancient Tomb and City of Traitors are not good enough replacements for Mishra's Workshop (and Thorn isn't good at all) to make MUD function in Legacy, your whatever deck is not going to function in Modern. While there are parallel decks in the format, they are not straight ports. If you just swap in Lightning Helix for Chain Lightning from your Legacy Zoo and play it in Modern, you will be playing a suboptimal Zoo deck. If you do this, anyone that knows the format will look at you and think you're an asshole.
In conclusion, -snip- Seriously, no ad hominem or attacking other members.
-4eak
Thanks,
Mike
I know that everyone is excited about the new format. And I know that there's this shiny (relatively) empty forum to post in. But one of the things that makes me proud to post at the Source is the quality of the posts here. And while this is not a DtB/LMF or Established forum, I'm seeing a lot of posts that read:
"Hey, this is my idea for a deck. I have never actually played a game of Modern or done any research on the format, but I think this would make a good place to start because [insert poorly reasoned statement here]. This list is not tuned or tested and I haven't even counted it to make sure it's 75 cards, but I would like someone else to play with it and fix it for me."
We're better than that guys. The forum will still be here tomorrow after you've done some bare minimum testing to make sure that your deck isn't a pile of dogshit. Don't start a thread that's just going to die an ignoble death in the next 24 hours because you had temporary diarhea of the fingers. Pro tip: if you can't put a sideboard together for the deck, don't post it. You need to know what your deck is weak to before you start trying to improve it. Adding Firespouts when you already curbstomp Zoo is dumb, but if you don't know that you already beat Zoo, you may just try it. Then you look like an asshole.
As a corollary, there are several existing forums and results from 1 tournament that can be used as research. So when you say "I think Modern will look like 'x' because cards 'y' and 'z' are just killer", if you haven't spent 15 minutes researching to make sure that cards y and z actually impact the format, you look like an asshole. Tarmogoyf is not the best card in this format. If I read you saying that it is, I immediately ignore anything further that you've written because you obviously haven't done your homework. If you say that Hive Mind is the best card in the format, well then I may disagree with you, but at least I'll know that you know your shit and that your opinion is to be respected.
Also, you can't just port your favorite deck from Standard/Legacy/previous Extended/whatever. The format operates differently. While there are occasionally successful ports from one format to another, these are done by people who understand both formats and see an opportunity for a single strategy to function well against the field in both. Just as Ancient Tomb and City of Traitors are not good enough replacements for Mishra's Workshop (and Thorn isn't good at all) to make MUD function in Legacy, your whatever deck is not going to function in Modern. While there are parallel decks in the format, they are not straight ports. If you just swap in Lightning Helix for Chain Lightning from your Legacy Zoo and play it in Modern, you will be playing a suboptimal Zoo deck. If you do this, anyone that knows the format will look at you and think you're an asshole.
In conclusion, -snip- Seriously, no ad hominem or attacking other members.
-4eak
Thanks,
Mike