[Multiplayer] Numot, the Devastator - Manadenial

[NilsH]

Work in progress: I'll post card by card analysis in the near future.

Main Plan: Deny people their mana, to stump their threats. Try to make the LD as asymmetrical as possible by using artifact mana. Kill with General or random big beater.

General
1 Numot, the Devastator

Land
1 Volcanic Island
1 Tundra
1 Plateau
1 Steam Vents
1 Sacred Foundry
1 Hallowed Fountain
5 Island
5 Mountain
3 Plains
1 Scalding Tarn
1 Wooded Foothills
1 Arid Mesa
1 Marsh Flats
1 Polluted Delta
1 Bloodstained Mire
1 Flooded Strand
1 Windswept Heath
1 Misty Rainforest
1 Izzet Boilerworks
1 Azorius Chancery
1 Boros Garrison
1 Flagstones of Trokair
1 Darksteel Citadel
1 Command Tower
1 Academy Ruins
35

ArtifactMana
1 Mox Diamond
1 Mox Opal
1 Mana Crypt
1 Sol Ring
1 Mana Vault
1 Grim Monolith
1 Mind Stone
1 Fellwar Stone
1 Talisman of Progress
1 Everflowing Chalice
1 Boros Signet
1 Azorius Signet
1 Izzet Signet
1 Fieldmist Borderpost
1 Basalt Monolith
1 Darksteel Ingot
1 Manalith
1 Khalni Gem
1 Thran Dynamo
1 Gilded Lotus
20

Planeswalkers
1 Jace Beleren
1 Jace, the Mind Sculptor
1 Ajani Vengeant
1 Venser, the Sojourner
1 Tezzeret the Seeker
1 Gideon Jura
6

ManaDenial
1 Land Equilibrium
1 Armageddon
1 Wildfire
1 Catastrophe
1 Boom/Bust
1 Destructive Force
1 Devastation
1 Decree of Annihilation
8

CreatureKill
1 Pendrell Mists
1 Propaganda
1 Ghostly Prison
1 Contagion Engine
4

Draw
1 Sensei's Diving Top
1 Rhystic Study
1 Timetwister
1 Wheel of Fortune
1 Windfall
1 Fact or Fiction
1 Mind's Eye
7

Misc Artifacts
1 Lightning Greaves
1 Swiftfoot Boots
1 Voltaic Key
1 Crucible of Worlds
1 Rings of Brighthearth
1 Sculpting Steel
1 Unwinding Clock
7

Creatures
1 Phyrexian Metamorph
1 Consecrated Sphinx
1 Steel Hellkite
1 Sphinx of Uthuun
1 Sundering Titan
1 Sun Titan
1 Hoard-Smelter Dragon
7

The Rest
1 Land Tax
1 Recoup
1 Muddle the Mixture
1 Mana Drain
1 Fabricate
5


Card Interactions:
Sensei's Diving Top + Voltaic Key nets you 1 card (tap SDT to draw, untap with key in respons, tap SDT to draw -> DRAW, SDT on top, DRAW).
Muddle the Mixture can transmute for Boom .
Venser the Sojourner + Sphinx of Uthuun = Fact or Fiction each turn
Venser the Sojourner + Sundering Titan destroys up to 10 lands each turn. Remember the Titan trigger both when leaving and entering the battlefield. Remember you can target the same land multiple times to avoid killing your own lands.
Ring's of Brightheart + any Planeswalker - copy to PW ability is usally good.
Ring's of Brightheart + fetch nets you two lands if you pay 2 mana.
Ring's of Brightheart + General kills 4 lands for R4.
Basalt Monolith + Ring's of Brightheart generates infintie colorless mana. You need an untapped Basalt Monolith and 2 colorless to start the combo.
Basalt Monolith + Ring's of Brightheart + Voltaic Key can untap infinite number of artifacts. Which again could give you infinte colored mana if you control Signets, Ingot, Lotus or etc.
Basalt Monolith + Ring's of Brightheart + Voltaic Key + Contagion Engine can put infinite counters on any permanent. If you have any Planeswalkers you can use their ulimate.
Basalt Monolith + Ring's of Brightheart + Voltaic Key + Sensei's Diving Top is infinite draw (see interaction with key and SDT).


Some thoughts:
I would like some more fast beaters, to end the game quickly after a LD, and maybe some more draw. Considering cutting 1-2 lands and 1-2 artifact mana.

Here are some cards i consider:
Winter Orb is a card I strongely consider. It would be nice to have a way to tap it to make it asymmetrical.
Blood Moon , Back to Basic and Ruination are all very good versus non-basics, but might be a little dangerous in a tri-color build.
I don't have Ravages of War, but I would run it if I had it.

Fault Line is an instant boardwipe, and for most part i doesn't kill my guys.
Swirwling is a cheap boardwipe that doesn't kill my guys.
Power Artifact combos with Monoliths, but I don't have any way to make good use of infinite colorless mana.

Wild Ricochet Fun card. Randomly awesome
Desertion Very good to steal general etc. But hopefully I will crush their mana before they get to play anything scary.

Seat of the Synod , Great Furnace and Ancient Den helps to achive metalcraft, and works with Unwinding Clock; but their are also more vulnerable than basics.

[Bignasty197]

Power Artifact combos with Monoliths, but I don't have any way to make good use of infinite colorless mana.

Banefire, Comet Storm and Stroke of Genius are all fine options for infinite mana.

[Fuzzy]

You should run Zur's Weirding (BEST. MANA. DENIAL. EVER!), Impending Disaster and Thoughts of Ruin. Also, World Queller is NUTS with LD. Like a White Braids.

[NilsH]

I've thought about your suggestions.

I've deceided to cut Power Artifact, and hence the combo; simply because I need a third card (Banefire or something simular) to win. It just don't do enough on its own.

Zur's Weirding looks strong in 1 on 1 matches. But in a multiplayer my opponent can take turn to skip my own draws to look me out of the game. I suspect to play 1 vs 3 alot, just because my deck will piss some opponent off...

Both Impending Disaster and Thought of Ruin is on my "maybe"-list. Impending Disaster is nice with Sun Titan.

World Queller is good, even better then Braids I think. Unfortunatly I don't think my list can take fully advantage of him, but his good anyway. Have to think about fitting him in.

General
1 Numot, the Devastator

Land
1 Volcanic Island
1 Tundra
1 Plateau
1 Steam Vents
1 Sacred Foundry
1 Hallowed Fountain
5 Island
4 Mountain
3 Plains
1 Scalding Tarn
1 Wooded Foothills
1 Arid Mesa
1 Marsh Flats
1 Polluted Delta
1 Bloodstained Mire
1 Flooded Strand
1 Windswept Heath
1 Misty Rainforest
1 Izzet Boilerworks
1 Azorius Chancery
1 Boros Garrison
1 Flagstones of Trokair
1 Darksteel Citadel
1 Command Tower
1 Academy Ruins
1 Ancient Tomb
35

ArtifactMana
1 Mox Diamond
1 Mox Opal
1 Mana Crypt
1 Sol Ring
1 Talisman of Progress
1 Everflowing Chalice
1 Boros Signet
1 Azorius Signet
1 Izzet Signet
1 Fieldmist Borderpost
1 Coaltion Relic
1 Basalt Monolith
1 Darksteel Ingot
1 Manalith
1 Worn Powerstone
1 Khalni Gem
1 Thran Dynamo
1 Gilded Lotus
18

Planeswalkers
1 Jace, the Mindsculptor
1 Venser, the Sojourner
1 Tezzeret the Seeker
1 Gideon Jura
1 Karn Liberated
4

ManaDenial
1 Winter Orb
1 Land Equilibrium
1 Armageddon
1 Sunder
1 Boom/Bust
1 Decree of Annihilation
6

CreatureKill
1 Pendrell Mists
1 Propaganda
1 Ghostly Prison
1 Collective Restraint
4

Both Creature- and Landkill
1 Wildfire
1 Catastrophe
1 Destructive Force
1 Devastation
4

Draw
1 Sensei's Diving Top
1 Scroll Rack
1 Rhystic Study
1 Timetwister
1 Wheel of Fortune
1 Windfall
1 Mind's Eye
7

Misc Artifacts
1 Voltaic Key
1 Crucible of Worlds
1 Rings of Brighthearth
1 Sculpting Steel
4

Creatures
1 Phyrexian Metamorph
1 Glen Elendra Archmage
1 Consecrated Sphinx
1 Sphinx of Uthuun
1 Sundering Titan
1 Sun Titan
1 Memnarch
7

Counterspells
1 Muddle the Mixture
1 Mana Drain
1 Swerve
1 Dream Fracture
1 Complicate
5

The Rest
1 Land Tax
1 Recoup
1 Luminarch Ascension
1 Fabricate
1 Bribery
1 Dismantlig Blow
6

Need to cut some cards...

I've deceided to tweak my list to a bit more controlling version; i.e. including some counterspells to stop whatever bomb that might get through.

Card discussion:
Propaganda , Ghostly Prison and Collective Restraint are generally weak in Commander as people tend to have some spare mana to pay for them. It's even easiere if you plan to attack with just one big threat. Hopefully my mana denial shell will make them viable.

Pendrell Mists is an annoying card in generall, and stop swarm strategies. With land destruction it can kill a lot of creatures.

Counterspell are not at it's best in multiplayer as they can't sustain card parity (you'll lose card advantage to each other player except the one you're countering). Hence I want counterspells that cantrips or have some other applications. Dream Fracture is basicly a Cancel with cantrip. I'm not sure if Complicate is worth it, but cycling it and counter something feels so good. Taxing counters are better in this shell, so I'll try it out.