Early Data Mining from MTGO

[Koby]

The following is the Top 40 most played cards in decks that are not 12-Post that had a winning record (3-1 or better):
[Source - MTG Stats (http://www.mtgstats.com/ArchetypeDetail.aspx?TournamentSubFormatID=42)]



Rank Card Decks Decks W/O Usage % Avg Qty
1 Mountain 73 55 57.03 4.1369
2 Scalding Tarn 53 75 41.4 3.4339
3 Forest 50 78 39.06 2.86
4 Misty Rainforest 48 80 37.5 3.25
5 Lightning Bolt 46 82 35.93 3.913
6 Verdant Catacombs 46 82 35.93 3.4782
7 Island 41 87 32.03 5.1707
8 Path to Exile 40 88 31.25 3.425
9 Plains 40 88 31.25 2.9
10 Arid Mesa 35 93 27.34 3.7142
11 Tarmogoyf 33 95 25.78 3.7878
12 Swamp 32 96 25 2.5937
13 Marsh Flats 32 96 25 2.25
14 Temple Garden 31 97 24.21 1.4838
15 Stomping Ground 29 99 22.65 1.8275
16 Sacred Foundry 28 100 21.87 2.0357
17 Overgrown Tomb 26 102 20.31 1.8846
18 Steam Vents 25 103 19.53 1.88
19 Lightning Helix 23 105 17.96 3.4782
20 Preordain 21 107 16.4 3.9523
21 Grim Lavamancer 21 107 16.4 3.1904
22 Dark Confidant 21 107 16.4 3.0476
23 Goblin Guide 20 108 15.62 4
24 Ponder 19 109 14.84 4
25 Wild Nacatl 19 109 14.84 4
26 Kitchen Finks 18 110 14.06 3.4444
27 Treetop Village 18 110 14.06 2.6111
28 Qasali Pridemage 18 110 14.06 2.3333
29 Knight of the Reliquary 17 111 13.28 3.7647
30 Hallowed Fountain 17 111 13.28 1.7647
31 Eternal Witness 17 111 13.28 1.647
32 Watery Grave 17 111 13.28 1.4705
33 Kird Ape 16 112 12.5 3.875
34 Darksteel Citadel 16 112 12.5 3.8125
35 Blinkmoth Nexus 15 113 11.71 3.7333
36 Noble Hierarch 15 113 11.71 2.8
37 Godless Shrine 15 113 11.71 1.1333
38 Blood Crypt 15 113 11.71 1
39 Memnite 14 114 10.93 4
40 Signal Pest 14 114 10.93 4


The Top 5 non-land cards from this list:
1. Lightning Bolt
2. Path to Exile
3. Tarmogoyf
4. Lightning Helix
5. Preordain

12-post (mono-:g:, mono-:u: and :u::g:) was excluded from this data in order to represent the more complex metagame.

[mchainmail]

why are we eliminating X-Post? Can we see numbers with Post as well?

[DrJones]

Just click on the link provided in the first post.

[Koby]

why are we eliminating X-Post? Can we see numbers with Post as well?

Because the majority of 12-post decks are only different by 25%, most of which are ramp spells. 12post is about 21% of the metagame from this reporting. This is to show the other 79% of the winning decks.

Would it be useful to list the metagame as such?

1. Cloudpost
2. Glimmerpost
3. Vesuva
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27. Mountain

[Tammit67]

Wow, not one storm card outside the cantrips. Huh

[Kich867]

Wow, not one storm card outside the cantrips. Huh

Most of the storm cards are red in modern, and there's no particularly good way to accumulate lethal storm with Grape Shot or Empty the Warrens.

[Tammit67]

Man, if only there were other storm cards legal in Modern!

[Mr. Safety]

Most of the storm cards are red in modern, and there's no particularly good way to accumulate lethal storm with Grape Shot or Empty the Warrens.

Pyromancer's Swath works with Grapeshot, and that deck typically uses Ignite Memories as well, which can kill with or without Swath. Swath looks like the new King of Storm in Modern, at least it's looking that way. It can kill turn 3 and doesn't rely on a suspended Lotus Bloom.

[Tammit67]

Meh, I haven't had problems yet with aggro with dragonstorm, even without bloom (though it really does help).

With all that aggro, is no one playing Martyr Proc?

[(nameless one)]

I dont know if you guys already saw but apparently the last 3 Modern Daily in MTGO have been dominated by combo, with one having all combo decks in the 4-0/3-1 bracket.

I told you guys that Modern is going to be the combo format.

[The Treefolk Master]

Code:
Rank Card Decks Decks W/O Usage % Avg Qty
1 Mountain 73 55 57.03 4.1369
2 Scalding Tarn 53 75 41.4 3.4339
3 Forest 50 78 39.06 2.86
4 Misty Rainforest 48 80 37.5 3.25
5 Lightning Bolt 46 82 35.93 3.913
6 Verdant Catacombs 46 82 35.93 3.4782
7 Island 41 87 32.03 5.1707
8 Path to Exile 40 88 31.25 3.425
9 Plains 40 88 31.25 2.9
10 Arid Mesa 35 93 27.34 3.7142
11 Tarmogoyf 33 95 25.78 3.7878
12 Swamp 32 96 25 2.5937
13 Marsh Flats 32 96 25 2.25
14 Temple Garden 31 97 24.21 1.4838
15 Stomping Ground 29 99 22.65 1.8275
16 Sacred Foundry 28 100 21.87 2.0357
17 Overgrown Tomb 26 102 20.31 1.8846
18 Steam Vents 25 103 19.53 1.88
19 Lightning Helix 23 105 17.96 3.4782
20 Preordain 21 107 16.4 3.9523
21 Grim Lavamancer 21 107 16.4 3.1904
22 Dark Confidant 21 107 16.4 3.0476
23 Goblin Guide 20 108 15.62 4
24 Ponder 19 109 14.84 4
25 Wild Nacatl 19 109 14.84 4
26 Kitchen Finks 18 110 14.06 3.4444
27 Treetop Village 18 110 14.06 2.6111
28 Qasali Pridemage 18 110 14.06 2.3333
29 Knight of the Reliquary 17 111 13.28 3.7647
30 Hallowed Fountain 17 111 13.28 1.7647
31 Eternal Witness 17 111 13.28 1.647
32 Watery Grave 17 111 13.28 1.4705
33 Kird Ape 16 112 12.5 3.875
34 Darksteel Citadel 16 112 12.5 3.8125
35 Blinkmoth Nexus 15 113 11.71 3.7333
36 Noble Hierarch 15 113 11.71 2.8
37 Godless Shrine 15 113 11.71 1.1333
38 Blood Crypt 15 113 11.71 1
39 Memnite 14 114 10.93 4
40 Signal Pest 14 114 10.93 4



Time to buy some mountains folks, you heard it here first!

As an exclusively control player, I'm discouraged by the fact that scanning every Modern tournament in MOL since the format was released has only yielded approx. 6 control decks.

[Sims]

I dont know if you guys already saw but apparently the last 3 Modern Daily in MTGO have been dominated by combo, with one having all combo decks in the 4-0/3-1 bracket.

I told you guys that Modern is going to be the combo format.

And this is a problem?

[dontbiteitholmes]

And this is a problem?

Yes it absolutely is a problem. Hopefully an answer will be found at some point or cards unbanned, but right now it looks like control is dead in the water. A format that is defined by Aggro and Combo is going to be boring as hell. "Oh look I got my combo before you could kill me with burn, game 2. Draw 7, can you play one of your SB answers before I win?"

For as much as people complain about Legacy Modern is beyond the most boring format I have ever played at this point. I picked up 12 post because I think it's broken and since I don't look forward to playing the format at all anyways I might as well just play to win. Completely boring, I just ignore everything you are doing 90% of the time and try to shit out a Titan, then if you play a moon effect I just hope I have a Beast Within. That is the matchup you are going to be playing against 3-5 times in a 9 round event. Have fun.

[rufus]

I dont know if you guys already saw but apparently the last 3 Modern Daily in MTGO have been dominated by combo....

Is there a convenient link for that info?

[Tammit67]

I dont know if you guys already saw but apparently the last 3 Modern Daily in MTGO have been dominated by combo, with one having all combo decks in the 4-0/3-1 bracket.

I told you guys that Modern is going to be the combo format.

Yeah, I don't know how people thought aggro was the greatest thing in this format.

[Sims]

Yes it absolutely is a problem. Hopefully an answer will be found at some point or cards unbanned, but right now it looks like control is dead in the water. A format that is defined by Aggro and Combo is going to be boring as hell. "Oh look I got my combo before you could kill me with burn, game 2. Draw 7, can you play one of your SB answers before I win?"

For as much as people complain about Legacy Modern is beyond the most boring format I have ever played at this point. I picked up 12 post because I think it's broken and since I don't look forward to playing the format at all anyways I might as well just play to win. Completely boring, I just ignore everything you are doing 90% of the time and try to shit out a Titan, then if you play a moon effect I just hope I have a Beast Within. That is the matchup you are going to be playing against 3-5 times in a 9 round event. Have fun.

I'm enjoying the hell out of the format, actually, way more so than I have been enjoying Legacy.

They won't leave it this way, though. They will either ban or unban things to try and find a balance, but they will at least have a PT behind them as evidence of what needs to be done. Odds are it will be ban things. And if they do they'll leave it as a shell of what it could be by turning it into an aggro format like they've been trying to do with every format ever because they think that everyone loves playing decks where creatures turn sideways. And that will make me greatly sad. Face it, WotC, Combo is a legitimate pillar of a format. Aggro vs. Aggro Control vs. Control vs. More Aggro is not fun.

[(nameless one)]

Is there a convenient link for that info?

Modern Daily Combo (http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Digital/MagicOnlineTourn.aspx?x=mtg/digital/magiconline/tourn/2739362)

Modern Daily (http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Digital/MagicOnlineTourn.aspx?x=mtg/digital/magiconline/tourn/2739360)

Modern Daily (http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Digital/MagicOnlineTourn.aspx?x=mtg/digital/magiconline/tourn/2739360)

[Mr. Safety]

Yes it absolutely is a problem. Hopefully an answer will be found at some point or cards unbanned, but right now it looks like control is dead in the water. A format that is defined by Aggro and Combo is going to be boring as hell. "Oh look I got my combo before you could kill me with burn, game 2. Draw 7, can you play one of your SB answers before I win?"

For as much as people complain about Legacy Modern is beyond the most boring format I have ever played at this point. I picked up 12 post because I think it's broken and since I don't look forward to playing the format at all anyways I might as well just play to win. Completely boring, I just ignore everything you are doing 90% of the time and try to shit out a Titan, then if you play a moon effect I just hope I have a Beast Within. That is the matchup you are going to be playing against 3-5 times in a 9 round event. Have fun.

I listened to several posters on here (including yourself) and I built my BUG deck SPECIFICALLY to combat the combo decks. I have yet to lose a match vs. combo (given, I've only faced Second Sunrise and Dragonstorm, but I handled both pretty easily.)

Dragonstorm = Makeshift Mannequin, bringing back Iona, naming 'red'. GG.

Second Sunrise = In response to Second Sunrise, Mana Leak/Spell Pierce. OR turn 1 Engineered Explosves @1.

Enduring Ideal = Play Enduring Ideal, fetching Meishin or FotD. Maelstrom Pulse Ideal...or Makeshift Mannequin, bringing back Angel of Despair.

[Sims]

Enduring Ideal = Play Enduring Ideal, fetching Meishin or FotD. Maelstrom Pulse Ideal...or Makeshift Mannequin, bringing back Angel of Despair.

I do have to question... How you are beating Enduring Ideal by casting Pulse on a sorcery in the graveyard? As for the rest of it, it's typically: Resolve Ideal -> Dovescape -> Meishin -> Form if there are no other silver bullet enchants to nab.

Letting them actually resolve the Ideal when you're playing counterspells seems like a poor plan

[rufus]

Modern Daily Combo (http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Digital/MagicOnlineTourn.aspx?x=mtg/digital/magiconline/tourn/2739362)

Modern Daily (http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Digital/MagicOnlineTourn.aspx?x=mtg/digital/magiconline/tourn/2739360)

Modern Daily (http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Digital/MagicOnlineTourn.aspx?x=mtg/digital/magiconline/tourn/2739360)

Thanks. That does look like 12post vs Combo.

[Mr. Safety]

I do have to question... How you are beating Enduring Ideal by casting Pulse on a sorcery in the graveyard? As for the rest of it, it's typically: Resolve Ideal -> Dovescape -> Meishin -> Form if there are no other silver bullet enchants to nab.

Letting them actually resolve the Ideal when you're playing counterspells seems like a poor plan

Yeah, I was thinking that Enduring Ideal was an enchantment, but all it does is find enchantments.

As to your first point, once they have Dovescape on the battlefield from a resolved Ideal, that's pretty much 'gg' against most of the field. I would make 3 useless 1/1's unless I Trickbinded the Dovescape trigger.

Better plan: Spell Pierce/Mana Leak when they cast Enduring Ideal. I could also dust off my Cranial Extractions, but at 4 mana, that may be too slow.

[Tammit67]

I wish you the best of luck trickbinding the dovescape trigger. Let me know how it goes?

[rufus]

I wish you the best of luck trickbinding the dovescape trigger. Let me know how it goes?

Yeah, you need something like Vexing Shusher instead.

[Tammit67]

Yeah, you need something like Vexing Shusher instead.

I once had a casual multiplayer deck involving a bunch of x spells, shusher and dovescape. Someone else dropped tempting wurm (Why were you playing that card at all, Michael Caffrey?), so i got the enchantment on turn two. From there, it was everyone else getting 2 tokens or so a turn while i was not only resolving my spells thanks to shusher, I was getting the tokens too since dovescape doesn't care if the spell was countered or not. Then I found mirror entity and twilight drover. I wasn't allowed to play dovescape anymore :(

But yeah, trickbinding the trigger will only give trickbind a trigger, to make my sarcasm a little more clear.

[menace13]

MTGO meta by archetype breakdown.

http://mtgstats.com/ArchetypeList.aspx?TournamentFormatID=53

12 post- Mono G, UG, Mono U make up 120 placings out of the 521 decks totaled.

[perm]

I predict vesuva being banned

[DrJones]

Vesuva is the wasteland of the format, I don't want Vesuva banned. :(

[menace13]

Vesuva is the wasteland of the format, I don't want Vesuva banned. :(

In minor applications that are largely irrelevant, can you name any other lands aside Ugin and Urborgg that see large amounts of play and matter before they get to 4 lands- for Tec Edge- ? Would not Ghost Quarter or Tectonic be better suited to the job Wasteland performs?

[Koby]

MTGO meta by archetype breakdown.

12 post- Mono G, UG, Mono U make up 120 placings out of the 521 decks totaled.

23% of the metagame based upon one strategy is not dominating. Vesuva is not getting banned.

[Admiral_Arzar]

23% of the metagame based upon one strategy is not dominating. Vesuva is not getting banned.

QFT. Cloudpost is far less dominant than "Blue shell + random win condition" is in Legacy right now, and doesn't seem to be stifling creativity in the format either.

[Mr. Safety]

I wish you the best of luck trickbinding the dovescape trigger. Let me know how it goes?

I'm so retarded...