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Di
08-08-2007, 12:50 AM
Link (http://www.starcitygames.com/php/news/article/14577.html)

Finally! This may be the first time I've seen an article written by an outsider that was really good. There is no condescending attitude towards the Legacy community or bashing of any kind. Just nice things here.

Cheers, Peter Jahn.

Machinus
08-08-2007, 01:13 AM
The blurb about not getting to draw a card wasn't great, but I liked the nationals coverage.

Pinder
08-08-2007, 01:13 AM
Holy crap. A good Legacy article written by someone who isn't Machinus or Bardo? I didn't believe it at first, but it's true. A nice read all around, and decently informative (despite his repeated insisting that he knows next to nothing about Legacy).

I liked it.

outsideangel
08-08-2007, 01:56 AM
I love that Empty the Slogger got mentioned.

zulander
08-08-2007, 10:08 AM
I love that he didn't make fun of me for powder kegging my call of the herd token. This guy was awesome at the tournament though, judging at 3:30 am is no easy feat, especially when you've been working for 18 hours.

Whit3 Ghost
08-08-2007, 10:35 AM
This was a really good article

C.P.
08-08-2007, 11:36 AM
An awesome article. Also, the belcher list is interesting.

3 Infernal tutor? hmm.

Bovinious
08-08-2007, 11:41 AM
Yea that Belcher list was definitely sub-par, oh well it grasped the basic concept well enough. Good article overall.

blacklotus3636
08-08-2007, 02:49 PM
Its interesting to me that one of the only articles people on the source like is written by someone who admits he doesn't know dick about legacy. I'm sorry but there seems to be something inherently elitist in that line of thinking.

Whit3 Ghost
08-08-2007, 02:51 PM
Its interesting to me that one of the only articles people on the source like is written by someone who admits he doesn't know dick about legacy. I'm sorry but there seems to be something inherently elitist in that line of thinking.
No, it's the fact that he didn't come in with a know it all attitude and didn't write a heavy handed article bashing the community.

Machinus
08-08-2007, 02:54 PM
Its interesting to me that one of the only articles people on the source like is written by someone who admits he doesn't know dick about legacy. I'm sorry but there seems to be something inherently elitist in that line of thinking.

You should pay more attention when you read criticisms. This article is good because the author is honest about how well he knows the format. The bad ones usually involve authors who don't know squat pretending like they are experts. It is sadly very easy to tell when someone is full of shit, and authors who choose to write about Legacy frequently are because they can't bring themselves to actually play in tournaments, or even a tournament.

Just judging a Legacy tournament probably earns more experience in the format than most have who choose to write about it. Even so, he is honest about his experience, which makes his contribution better than much that has been written about Legacy.

Anusien
08-08-2007, 03:05 PM
Considering how poor the average Legacy player's grasp of the rules is, judging a Legacy tournament is no mean feat, even if they simplified and clarified the Humility interactions.

Eldariel
08-08-2007, 04:58 PM
A well-written article, although I don't really think 'I never got to draw a card' is the kind of press the format wants, especially since it's rarely even half the story and the combo in the format is hardly unstoppable. A major reason Vintage had almost no players for the longest time besides the obscuring costs of playing competitively back when there were no proxy tourneys was that there was a myth of games being decided by die roll. That just turns players off and makes them not want to even bother familiarizing themselves with the format. This is not the case in Vintage and this is definitely not the case in Legacy, so what would really be called for are articles that actually explain the nature of the format and show how far from omnipotent or even dominant combo is in the format.

Still, with the knowledge he had, he wrote an interesting observation of the format and was completely honest when it came to many of the points. I enjoyed reading it.

Di
08-08-2007, 05:05 PM
Considering how poor the average Legacy player's grasp of the rules is, judging a Legacy tournament is no mean feat, even if they simplified and clarified the Humility interactions.

If you actually played Legacy, you'd realize what you said is false. Although generally a Legacy player is considered to be worse in this regard compared to other formats, I find nothing but the opposite when actually playing in events. If you go to a 50+ person Legacy event, roughly 15-20% will have a poor grasp of the rules. A bit high, but not bad. Those people will also be those either getting a third round bye, playing what seems to be a casual match, or dropping. The rest of us actually have a clue on what's going on, and that pretty much pertains to a majority of the posters on here. I'm not saying all the good posters here are good with rules, but to denounce them is just wrong.

But God help him if he had to deal with Humility. God help him...

Happy Gilmore
08-09-2007, 12:24 AM
lol, I know exactly why he used my decklist of UGR. I forgot to put my last name down on my reg sheet, so he came over to me in the early rounds to give me a warning and shake his finger. I promised him that I would make sure to write the other half as well for the rest of the tournament. :laugh:

He was a great character, I hope we meet again.

Hatthehat
08-13-2007, 08:41 PM
That article did get me into legacy I plan to get all the cards for empty-the slogger :smile: But play goblins on MWS I plan to get the cards for goblins some day:rolleyes: