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It's 6:30 AM and I'm sleepy and hungry, and I don't play Elves, but even though the land ETB tapped, I feel like Elves would like a 1-drop Elf that tutors for Cradle (or Pendelhaven), right? Also, nice stats on the creature itself.
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Gets Dark Depths and Stage.
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Scott
It's 6:30 AM and I'm sleepy and hungry, and I don't play Elves, but even though the land ETB tapped, I feel like Elves would like a 1-drop Elf that tutors for Cradle (or Pendelhaven), right? Also, nice stats on the creature itself.
Sounds good, but as a GSZ target, it can't get Cradle active before T4. T2 fetch Elf, T3 fetch tapped Cradle, T4 use Cradle. Something to keep in mind, but probably pretty good nonetheless. It also adds Wasteland protection to a certain degree. Or get around Bloodmoon to fetch more basics.
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Wait does the red leyline work against tendrils? to the best of my understanding it doesnt, cuz like the copies all go on the stack, and then each pick a target, leyline deals you 2, then tendrils deals 2 adn you gain 2, repeat
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"Core set 2020, because we forgot to put the Elves in MH."
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Wait does the red leyline work against tendrils? to the best of my understanding it doesnt, cuz like the copies all go on the stack, and then each pick a target, leyline deals you 2, then tendrils deals 2 adn you gain 2, repeat
Since the leyline triggers on "becoming the target", I'm fairly sure that it kills you before Tendrils will resolve. Since each copy goes on the stack targeting all at once the leyline triggers will all go on at once as well over the Tendrils triggers. Kind of the same way that Valakut triggers happen. But this is defiantly something to ask a real judge.
Stack:
Tendrils
Storm Trigger -- resolved
Leyline Trigger -- resolved
Tendrils xStormCount
Leyline Trigger xStormCount
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https://i.redd.it/isvvjjpw1j531.png
So, you're never actually going to cast this for 7. But as a creature, and as an effect that doesn't end when the creature dies, and as an effect that can target any permanent type (including lands) - is there some weird use for this in reanimator?
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https://i.redd.it/isvvjjpw1j531.png
So, you're never actually going to cast this for 7. But as a creature, and as an effect that doesn't end when the creature dies, and as an effect that can target any permanent type (including lands) - is there some weird use for this in reanimator?
Seems better than Gilded Drake vs S&T since it can steal their Omnis while giving them jackshit, but that's about it.
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So, you're never actually going to cast this for 7. But as a creature, and as an effect that doesn't end when the creature dies, and as an effect that can target any permanent type (including lands) - is there some weird use for this in reanimator?
More likely to see play as a totally uncastable -1 SB slot in decks that can’t beat SnT.
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Honestly, Field of the Dead isnt even playable in standard or modern. It's actually one of the worst cards I have ever seen. Good luck trying to assemble your 7 lands while show and tell drops Emrakul t2 or Storm goes off t2. Like, what deck would that card even be good against? Ever hear of a card named Wasteland? Plus, miracles has no way to fetch for a land, so what run 4? What lands are you replacing? This is better then Entreat the Angels? Mentor? Jace? I don't even get why this card is being suggested at all.
4x Standstill
1x Back to Basics
2x Jace, the Mind Sculptor
2x Narset, Parter of Veils
2x Teferi, Time Raveler
4x Force of Will
4x Swords to Plowshares
4x Brainstorm
2x Dovin's Veto
3x Supreme Verdict
2x Council's Judgment
2x Crucible of Worlds
3x Expedition Map
4x Prismatic Vista
4x Flooded Strand
3x Island
1x Snow-Covered Island
1x Plains
1x Snow-Covered Plains
1x Tundra
1x Karakas
1x Hall of Heliod's Generosity
1x Academy Ruins
1x Field of the Dead
1x Wasteland
Maybe a 4-color "It's the Fear" type shell would be better? I dunno, but it's not remotely hard to build a viable legacy control deck that wins lategame off of Field thanks in very large part to Snow basics. You guys are all really sleeping on this card. It's not a format changer, but it absolutely gives any control or long-game deck a huge advantage in any game that goes long.
No, it won't stop a turn 2 Show and Tell, but why the fuck would it? That's not it's job, that's Force of Will's job. It's job is to be a huge pile of inevitability vs. other controllish decks and to get big value from fetchlands in the late game.
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4x Standstill
1x Back to Basics
2x Jace, the Mind Sculptor
2x Narset, Parter of Veils
2x Teferi, Time Raveler
4x Force of Will
4x Swords to Plowshares
4x Brainstorm
2x Dovin's Veto
3x Supreme Verdict
2x Council's Judgment
2x Crucible of Worlds
3x Expedition Map
4x Prismatic Vista
4x Flooded Strand
3x Island
1x Snow-Covered Island
1x Plains
1x Snow-Covered Plains
1x Tundra
1x Karakas
1x Hall of Heliod's Generosity
1x Academy Ruins
1x Field of the Dead
1x Wasteland
Maybe a 4-color "It's the Fear" type shell would be better? I dunno, but it's not remotely hard to build a viable legacy control deck that wins lategame off of Field thanks in very large part to Snow basics. You guys are all really sleeping on this card. It's not a format changer, but it absolutely gives any control or long-game deck a huge advantage in any game that goes long.
No, it won't stop a turn 2 Show and Tell, but why the fuck would it? That's not it's job, that's Force of Will's job. It's job is to be a huge pile of inevitability vs. other controllish decks and to get big value from fetchlands in the late game.
Runs back to basics in a deck that wants to run a bunch of non basics. Runs map over ponder. And wants to run a t7 clock in a standstill shell without mishras factories.. right.
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BenBleiweiss
https://i.redd.it/isvvjjpw1j531.png
So, you're never actually going to cast this for 7. But as a creature, and as an effect that doesn't end when the creature dies, and as an effect that can target any permanent type (including lands) - is there some weird use for this in reanimator?
Flickerwisp, Eldrazi Displacer, Venser the Sojurner
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They just spoiled an upgraded Voltaic Key.
Manifold Key 1
1: Tap: Untap another target artifact
3: Tap: Target creature can't be blocked this turn.
Might even lead to a Chalice less Eldrazi Post or MUD deck, that plays 10-12 Monoliths, 8 Voltaic Key, either 4 Metalworker or 4 Cloudpost and a couple of Candelabra of Tawnos and just aim to hardcast massive Eldrazi, Ballistas, KGC + Lattice or an Ugin by turn 3 every game. Will need work to not be a glass canon and to be resilient to mass artifact destruction but it's a going to be a very fun deck to play.
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Captain Hammer
They just spoiled an upgraded Voltaic Key.
Manifold Key 1
1: Tap: Untap another target artifact
3: Tap: Target creature can't be blocked this turn.
Might even lead to a Chalice less Eldrazi Post or MUD deck, that plays 10-12 Monoliths, 8 Voltaic Key, either 4 Metalworker or 4 Cloudpost and a couple of Candelabra of Tawnos and just aim to hardcast massive Eldrazi, Ballistas, KGC + Lattice or an Ugin by turn 3 every game. Will need work to not be a glass canon and to be resilient to mass artifact destruction but it's a going to be a very fun deck to play.
Why not just play taxing Spheres over Chalice for disruption? Although the lack of synergy with 3sphere kinda sucks.
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http://mythicspoiler.com/m20/cards/shiftingceratops.jpg
So why does the anti-blue card have to cost twice as much as the rest of the cycle? For crying out loud! :rolleyes:
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Looks cool but I would cut a couple of Elvish Reclaimer (you can GSZ for one if you need) and play some Crop Rotations instead.
Crop Rotation does the same thing but a turn faster and for two mana cheaper and the land comes into play untapped, though it can't be done every turn, I still think it's the stronger card, especially when you want to win by grabbing a Thespian's Stage to pair with Dark Depths.
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Captain Hammer
Looks cool but I would cut a couple of Elvish Reclaimer (you can GSZ for one if you need) and play some Crop Rotations instead.
Crop Rotation does the same thing but a turn faster and for two mana cheaper and the land comes into play untapped, though it can't be done every turn, I still think it's the stronger card, especially when you want to win by grabbing a Thespian's Stage to pair with Dark Depths.
Absolutely correct - just a general idea and obviously not polished. It might end up looking like a Lands list mixed with . . . what . . . Zoo/Maverick?
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Cire
Absolutely correct - just a general idea and obviously not polished. It might end up looking like a Lands list mixed with . . . what . . . Zoo/Maverick?
Since it's GSZ-able and Elves has untap effects, it could fetch the entire DD combo and activate it the next turn.