[EDH] Jeleva, Nephalia's Scourges - Casual Chaos/thievery theme
39 Lands
Rakdos Lands
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Dimir Lands
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Izzet Lands |
Tri/Fetch/Other Lands
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Blue Lands
Black Lands
Red Lands
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25 Scoundrels
Black Scallywags
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Blue Looters
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Red Rascals
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Gold Hoarders
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These are the "Pirates." There were quite a few in there in the initial build and far too many to be efficient in a long/big game. So this list will get trimmed up for more piratey spells in the coming updates.
36 Other Cards
6 Planeswalkers |
7 Mana Rocks
3 Weapons and Stolen Treasures |
7 Destructive and Larceny - Enchantments.
9 Destructive and Larceny - Sorcery.
4 Destructive and Larceny - Instants. |
The General
Originally this started off as a Ramirez deck, but I wanted to get red in for some fun spells, so I switched to Beckett. Also, Ramirez is just a very overcosted beater so no sense having him in there leading the charge. Obviously there are zero non-permanent spells, so that will change quickly, as will an improved mana base. Just wanted to get something sleeves up and working so far.
First additions (once I can get my next order in) will be a Liliana Vess and Ashiok, Nightmare Weaver to steal my opponents creatures, and then some shocks lands and fetches and maybe another check or two (Dragonskull Summit and Sulfur falls). Then some treachery, control magic, and the like will work their way in here. The likely culprits to remove are some of the weaker pirates and equipment/vehicles. Since this is more casual themed, not really needing much mental energy put into this, just liking the layout to see the deck and make/track edits and figured I'd let everyone follow along.
Re: [EDH] Admiral Beckett Brass - Casual Pirate/thievery theme
Just like that, updates already. Went through my PW collection and saw quite a few "gain control of" abilities. so we'll throw them all at the wall and see what sticks. Will probably whittle down to the 1 walker rule eventually but we'll see. That's a different deck with different rules :)
in:
Watery Grave
Fiery Cannonade
Unclaimed territory
Dack Fayden
Nicol Bolas, God-Pharoah
Nicol Bolas, Planeswalker
Treachery
Liliana, the Necromancer (meh, not sure on this one, but I'm going to test the waters to see)
Jace, Ingenius Mind-Mage
Tezzeret, Master of Metal
Tibalt, the Fiend-Blooded
Soring Markov
Liliana Vess
What is this, pirate superfriends? Sheesh...
out:
Island
Mountain
Brazen Bucaneers
Brazen Freebooter
Grappling Hook
Cobbled wings
Consulate dreadnought
Elixer of Immortality
Rowdy Crew
Sleek Schooner
Siren Lookout
Dire Fleet Interloper
Ring of Evos Isle
Re: [EDH] Admiral Beckett Brass - Casual Pirate/thievery theme
Re: [EDH] Admiral Beckett Brass - Casual Pirate/thievery theme
Minor changes to the mana base and a touch more thievery.
In:
Desertion
Lightning Greaves
Chromatic Lantern
Ashiok, Nightmare Weaver
Morphic Pool
Dragonskull Summit
Blood Crypt
Luxury Suite
Sulfur Falls
Seat of the Synod
Out:
Manalith (chromatic is better)
Swiftfoot Boots (greaves is cheaper to activate)
Tomb Robber (Pirate with some filtering, but want to try more theivery)
Storm Fleet Spy (card draw too conditional)
3 Mountain
1 Island
2 Swamp
Cards I will probably work in:
Misdirection (or some similar effects)
Card draw (being in blue and black, shouldn't' be to hard).
A few more graveyard stealers. Just need to get my hands on a few more.
A wrath or two. Or some spot removal. The deck can run into problems in that it can be a bit reactive and as a 1 off. So it needs to have better reset buttons I think.
Bribery can be an absolute backbreaker against the right decks. Two games in a row I stole a Gisela, Blade of Goldnight which the opponent had, somehow, no answer to (or coudln't find any). So many fun creatures one can grab in EDH that way!
Re: [EDH] Admiral Beckett Brass - Casual Pirate/thievery theme
Making notes to look into for later, first one courtesy of Davran's Diaochan deck.
Insurrection
The mana cost is a bit high, but maybe I put in more treasure generating pirates or ramp spells. Not a lot outside of green and artifacts, but i haven't done much work on the artifact mana base, so maybe worn powerstone, dream hedronp, and the like will make an appearance.
Having a way to dispose of temporarily stolen creatures would be nice too (Goblin bombardment is the easy answer, but maybe there are better ones, like reusable fling effects).
Also, probably going to drop the pirate theme and just go with a thievery theme, and include some non-pirates such as
Wrexial, the risen deep
Etali, primal storm
And the red dragon that exiles cards from defending player's library when it is dealt damage, and I can cast them. That might be nice with myriad... stay tuned for that one.
edit, adding:
mass mutiny from Davran's suggestion.
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In:
Steam Vents
Island
Swamp
Out:
Izzet Boilerworks
Halimar Depths
Mortuary Mire
I am not a fan of the bounce lands and other two that CIPT. Bojuka bog at least has some use but the other two seem to be meh and would be better served by untapped basics.
Leaning more towards dropping pirate as a condition and jacking about with more hardcore thievery. I mean Davey Jones had a kraken, right?
https://www.armbev.com/wp-content/up...kraken-big.png
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More minor changes. Ordered some fun goodies so ill make a few more substantial changes in a bit. News: No longer strict pirate requirement. Maybe I'll eventually get an arcane adaptation/conspiracy thing going to make them all pirates again. But for now, Just focusing on stealing.
out:
Dusk Legion Dreadnought
Deadeye Quartermaster
Fell Flagship
Conquerer's Galleon
In:
Mirage Mirror
Thief of Sanity
The eldest reborn
Wrexial, the Risen Deep
Re: [EDH] Admiral Beckett Brass - Casual Pirate/thievery theme
May have to change the commander here. Jeleva, Nephalia's Scourge is the right color and has the right effect with no need to be on tribal. Highly likely that since I'm going off pirates tribal I switch to her. This deck is shaping up to be quite chaotic (big change coming in a few days, USPS permitting), but its totally fun. At least from my perspective. And VERY political haha.
Basically I'm going to be ripping cards off other peoples decks and casting them, swapping control of creatures opponents control (sometimes even just switching between opponents), and redistributing permanents owned across the battlefield, including my own! Madness!
That said, its a very mana heavy deck. Aside from the usual suspects of mana rocks, are there good mana ramps in Grixis colors? Trove of Temptation, Captain Lannery Storm and Brass's Bounty are the only ones that i can think of off the top of my head (other than ritual effects). Hence why Explorer's scope was in there, and it proves quite useful oddly enough.
Trove seems a little too risky as the deck can be a bit slow. But I can test it out. Need more tutors (budget will do for now), maybe I'll go with the chaos theme with Sunbird's Invocation. If Im gonna go jank, might as well go full on!
Re: [EDH] Admiral Beckett Brass - Casual Pirate/thievery theme
I can't think of anything off, the top of my head, to add that would be thematic but what about Future Sight? That card is sweet.
EDIT: If you want more ramp, Gilded Lotus is nice.
Re: [EDH] Admiral Beckett Brass - Casual Pirate/thievery theme
I agree that it is, and since the deck is quite chaotic like that, it may just be thematic after all!
Big mail day today:
In:
Jeleva, Nephalia's Scourge - new commander! (may need to increase the amount of instants and sorceries to take full advantage, but running with it for now)
Shivan Reef
Temple of Deceit
Temple of Epiphany
Gonti, Lord of Luxury
Dragonlord Silumagar
Endless Whispers
Dualcaster Mage
Perplexing Chimera
Shared Fate
Illusionist's Gambit
Sepulchral Primordial
Baleful Strix
Praetor's Grasp
Sudden Spoiling
Clever Impersonator
Etali, Primal Storm
Stolen Strategy
Treasury Nabber
Slave of Bolas
Hellkite Tyrant
The Scarab God
Dominus of Fealty
Olivia Voldaren
Out:
Admiral Becket Brass
Rakdos Carnarium
Cinder Barrens
Unclaimed Territory
Skysovereign, Consul Flagship
Smuggler's Copter
Captain's Hook
Marauding Looter
Dreamcaller siren
Forefunner of the Coalition
timestream Navigator
Angrath, Minotaur Pirate
Sorin Markov
Deadeye Brawler
Deadeye Plunderer's - this one I'm not so sure on removing. Helps get the color i need and can get decently sized. Plays well with Hellkite Tyrant as well.
Fathom Fleet Captain
Fiery Cannonade
Storm Fleet arsonist
Tibalt, the Fiend-Blooded
Ruthless Knave - Needs an outlet for stolen creatures. Not sure on removing this one either, but can always bring in goblin bombardment or the like.
Dire fleet poisoner
Rishadan Brigand
Bomat Bazaar Barge
Deadeye Tracker
The Pws weren't reliable or menacing enough, so i took those out. May strip a few more out but we shall see. Looking forward to testing this new chaos build out.
EDIT - apparently I have either 1 too many cards in my deck or I missed an update from earlier. Have 100 + the commander. So I'll need to figure that out.
Re: [EDH] Admiral Beckett Brass - Casual Pirate/thievery theme
Deck lacks in removal when it can't steal. also some creatures/equipment isn't really doing much any more. Deck also needs come mana boost and since i can't ramp lands in these colors I can ramp rocks instead!
In:
Vesuvan Doppelganger
Decree of Pain
In Garruk's Wake
Annihilate
Indulgent tormentor
Extract from Darkness
Telemin Performance
Rise of the Dark Realms
Nicol Bolas, the Ravager
Underground River
Nightveil Specter
Worn Powerstone
Thran Dynamo
Maybe Bolas becomes the new commander and this becomes an oops all bolas deck?
out:
Explorer's Scope
Mind Stone
Captain Lannery Storm
Dismal Backwater
Dire Fleet Ravager
Hedonist's Trove
Shared Fate
Angrath's Marauders
Praetor's Grasp
Jace, Ingenious Mind-Mage
Tezzeret, Master of Metal
Liliana, the Necromancer
Illusionist's Gambit
the PWs werent really strong enough to warrant inclusion, and praetors grasp doesn't let me use any mana to cast, so it isn't as good as it seems. Land upgrade should seem obvious, and Trove/Shared fate were just not really doing what I wanted.
Re: [EDH] Admiral Beckett Brass - Casual Pirate/thievery theme
Swapping out the artifact lands for basics. No need to have additional artifact destruction targets.... will update main list tomorrow.
tested it out against a mono green stompy deck last night. Used liliana vess -2 to tutor up a sol ring to cast a decree of pain (into a vorinclex and a board full of creatures) and wound up getting responded with that kaladesh/aether revolt card that gives all his dudes indestructable. FML. Had him to 11 and might have been the game pending the next few turns. Did better than I thought 1v1 even though it isn't really meant for it. But the ETB tapped lands REALLY hurt. The check lands coming in online earlier might have made a difference here.
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updated main post. Now to fix the lands (more just a note to myself):
ETB tapped, always:
Bloodfell Caves
Canyon Slough
Jwar Isle Refuge
Fetid Pools
Temple of Deceit
Highland Lake
Sulfur Falls
Temple of Epiphany
Evolving Wilds
Crypt of the Eternals
Crumbling Necropolis
Bojuka Bog
ETB tapped, conditional (i'm leaving the BBD dual lands as I generally play 3 players or more):
Dragonskull summit
Sunken Hollow
Drowned Catacomb
Bog provides a useful ETB, as do the temples (in a limited way at least) so I'm not too worried about those. AKH duals aren't too bad as they can be fetched EOT and provide basic types for checks. Adding just a couple more basics will help with the check lands, so that problem may go away. I don't have the funds for duals ATM so those are out. Some things to work in:
Flooded Strand/Polluted Delta/Wooded Foothills/Teramorphic Expanse (maybe - helps get the right basic out if nothing else). If they ever reprint the enemy fetches and they come down in price I'll definitely get those but those are just too much for now.
Mana confluence/Reflecting pool/Exotic and/or Forbidden orchard (maybe). Also can look into the fast land (darkslick shores, etc) cycle. Urborg might help too.
Current board wipes are expensive mana wise, so Toxic Deluge and/or damnation needs to be in here. Inferno or earthquake might be good too. Red has lots of fun cards that are viable options.
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in:
Nightscape familiar
inferno
out:
Animate Dead
endless whispers
Endless whispers got a little too crazy, but i'm keeping it out in case i change my mind on it. Got to play two games vs the previously mentioned mono green stompy EDH and handled it well both times. Didn't get to cast some of the new cards, but the thievery was just spectacular. Nothing like tapping out to steal a vorinclex. I think at one point i had 3 or 4 of his creatures, which he then had to turn into basic forests to deal with. Treachery, Sepulchuran primodrial, and ashiook did the dirty work.
Re: [EDH] Admiral Beckett Brass - Casual Pirate/thievery theme
Re: [EDH] Admiral Beckett Brass - Casual Pirate/thievery theme
Minor update:
out:
crypt of the eternals
rogue's passage
in:
reflecting pool
exotic orchard
rouge's was a holdout from a different version of the deck to sneak crafty dues through but it doens't do much nowadays. need the potentially colored mana more. crypt is slow, well see if i miss it.
