Re: [Deck] Sneak and Show
What's the general consensus w/ leyline? I feel like you need to mull in order to find one, and if you get one, but your opener is garbage, what's the point? Is it worth 4 slots for that?
Re: [Deck] Sneak and Show
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ThirdDegree
What's the general consensus w/ leyline? I feel like you need to mull in order to find one, and if you get one, but your opener is garbage, what's the point? Is it worth 4 slots for that?
so my personal opinion on the card is that it sucks outside of turn 0 for us.. its a great card vs grixas and other decks with discard but outside of show and tell and wasting 2 of your petals on white you can not cast it reliably we already have 8 cards for that no need to waste more slots
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AnvilOfCrom
Maybe i would cut 1 Defense Grid für the 2nd Lavamancer, but overall i like your sideboard.
Have you ever played with 4 Leylines in the board? I will try it, but its really hard to find space for them.
i tried the leyline board and though it was ok im not comfertable have more do nothing cards in the deck. i like the idea of a secont lavamancer a little but to do my best to not play any number of leylines in the board i think i have to play the 3 grids.. the whole point of leylines is to make their discard dead draws where d grid hinders the counters so they can discard stuff but id rather them struggle to counter a show and tell/sneak attack than worry about their discard.. this is just my way of thinking im not saying it is right it just works for me more than it does not if you play the leylines i think you are off the d grid plan so if you are using my board as a basis then the 4th card would more than likely be abrade i think or k return either one... once again this is my opinion
Re: [Deck] Sneak and Show
Hello guys, I'm picking up Omniscience version of Sheak and SHow and I want to learn the basics of the deck. Right now I'm Really struggling with the sideboard. Does anyone have asideboard guide to show me/? It would help me a lot!
Thanks!!
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Mat
Hello guys, I'm picking up Omniscience version of Sheak and SHow and I want to learn the basics of the deck. Right now I'm Really struggling with the sideboard. Does anyone have asideboard guide to show me/? It would help me a lot!
Thanks!!
Erm, I use to Watch youtube videos of mtgo just search: omnisneak or omni-sneak or sneak and show (some are omnisneak versions some are old school sneak show though) to get an idea. They do explain how they sideboard.
Re: [Deck] Sneak and Show
I see Through the Breach in nearly every SB. Why do you play it and in which MU are they boarded in?
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hoernchen
I see Through the Breach in nearly every SB. Why do you play it and in which MU are they boarded in?
Mirror and BR Reanimator most of the time. Iona naming blue takes away your show and tell/omniscience win route leaving only sneak attack as only option. Maybe some fair deck match ups if they can shut your sneak attack route.
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Abantau
Mirror and BR Reanimator most of the time. Iona naming blue takes away your show and tell/omniscience win route leaving only sneak attack as only option. Maybe some fair deck match ups if they can shut your sneak attack route.
Not only that, you can fetch it with Cunning Wish and slide in one of your obesities in a pinch.
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Adan
Not only that, you can fetch it with Cunning Wish and slide in one of your obesities in a pinch.
Haha, did this get run through a translator before you posted it? (Not a shot at you, I just have to assume that fatties got changed to obesities.) Regardless, that's hilarious and I really want to start calling Griz and Emrakul obesities from now on.
So is everyone sold on Leyline of Sanctity in the current meta? I don't own any so I haven't tried it out, are people finding it does enough against Pile to make it worthwhile? 4 SB slots is a lot to devote to a card you cant even realistically hard cast.
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Hi! Just finished building Omnisneak and want to know some good targets for Cunning Wish? Particularly against infect, reanimator and d&t. Sorry for the vague question, but I'm relatively new to legacy and want to know this before I go try this beauty out at my LGS.
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amjw
Hi! Just finished building Omnisneak and want to know some good targets for Cunning Wish? Particularly against infect, reanimator and d&t. Sorry for the vague question, but I'm relatively new to legacy and want to know this before I go try this beauty out at my LGS.
Against infect, Sudden Shock is the bees knees, so is Wipe Away. Kozilek's Return is also quite solid and is very good against D&T. Against Reanimator the best thing I can think of is Surgical Extraction, but you're gonna want that in the maindeck for boarded games since it's usually too slow to wish for. Wipe Away is real good against reanimator too.
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Ephemeron
Against infect, Sudden Shock is the bees knees, so is Wipe Away. Kozilek's Return is also quite solid and is very good against D&T. Against Reanimator the best thing I can think of is Surgical Extraction, but you're gonna want that in the maindeck for boarded games since it's usually too slow to wish for. Wipe Away is real good against reanimator too.
Awesome, I'll give those a go against those decks! Cheers for the reply, you might see me on this thread now and then since I need to learn about this deck and play more.
Re: [Deck] Sneak and Show
Hello all,
I've been getting good results with Sneak&Show against all decks (even D&T and Eldrazi) except for delver decks and 4c leovold. I only beat them like 10% of the times. Specially with delver decks.
I usually win the first game, but the real problem are the post board games, when they board 500 cheap counterspells (flusterstorm, blasts, etc) and surgicals.
My list is equal to this one: http://mtgtop8.com/event?e=17492&d=308329&f=LE
Except for the 2 omnisciences: instead I run an extra flusterstorm and a main board pyroclasm.
Is there any silver bullet against these decks? Because I'd gladly put 4 of those in my sideboard. It's that frustrating.
(I've been experimenting with chalice of the void against delver (desperate I know), and it kinda works sometimes, though not always).
Or any other tips would also appreciate.
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Defense grid. can't be countered by fluster and pyro, so if you stick it turn 1, it's prob GG. If it doesn't, it's a 2 for 1 and you baited out a FOW. Blood Moon is also quite good, though you have to stick it early. Pyroclasm/kozilek's return is also fantastic vs grixis, since alot of times you need time to set up your combo and they are killing iwth small critters. Post-board games will never be in your favor, but if you get it close to 50/50, then you're fine, since game 1 is easy. Hope this helps!
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Kobained
Hello all,
I've been getting good results with Sneak&Show against all decks (even D&T and Eldrazi) except for delver decks and 4c leovold. I only beat them like 10% of the times. Specially with delver decks.
I usually win the first game, but the real problem are the post board games, when they board 500 cheap counterspells (flusterstorm, blasts, etc) and surgicals.
My list is equal to this one:
http://mtgtop8.com/event?e=17492&d=308329&f=LE
Except for the 2 omnisciences: instead I run an extra flusterstorm and a main board pyroclasm.
Is there any silver bullet against these decks? Because I'd gladly put 4 of those in my sideboard. It's that frustrating.
(I've been experimenting with chalice of the void against delver (desperate I know), and it kinda works sometimes, though not always).
Or any other tips would also appreciate.
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Hank Zhong
Defense grid. can't be countered by fluster and pyro, so if you stick it turn 1, it's prob GG. If it doesn't, it's a 2 for 1 and you baited out a FOW. Blood Moon is also quite good, though you have to stick it early. Pyroclasm/kozilek's return is also fantastic vs grixis, since alot of times you need time to set up your combo and they are killing iwth small critters. Post-board games will never be in your favor, but if you get it close to 50/50, then you're fine, since game 1 is easy. Hope this helps!
Those are all in my sideboard already. I want cards that aren't on it, or general tips. I always board 2 or 3 defense grid and 2 pyroclasm against them and still no luck. But thanks anyway.
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Kobained
Those are all in my sideboard already. I want cards that aren't on it, or general tips. I always board 2 or 3 defense grid and 2 pyroclasm against them and still no luck. But thanks anyway.
Against Delver Decks i like to board in Grim Lavamancer. He can buy you a lot of time, since you can kill all of their creauters except for TNN. And they usually board out Lighting Bolts in favor of more counters.