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PirateKing
Spirit Guide, Spirit Guide into Manamorphose, the way God intended
Fixed that for you.
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Hey folks what do we think about unbanning black lotus? It's basically just pure card disadvantage since you can't really do anything good with 3 of the same color of mana anyways. You are down 3 cards if your opponent forces a turn 1 JTMS aka pure card disadvantage. It seems close to unplayable, kind of like tinker.
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Maybe unban minds desire while we're at it
Please?? Please, can we?? :eek:
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More storm can’t be a bad thing, although I’m certain the bitch about everything contingency would find fault with it
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Lord_Mcdonalds
More storm can’t be a bad thing, although I’m certain the bitch about everything contingency would find fault with it
Give me a Chalice of the Void creature (whose P/T is equal to X) and you can have Mind's Desire. :wink:
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CptHaddock
Hey folks what do we think about unbanning black lotus? It's basically just pure card disadvantage since you can't really do anything good with 3 of the same color of mana anyways. You are down 3 cards if your opponent forces a turn 1 JTMS aka pure card disadvantage. It seems close to unplayable, kind of like tinker.
glad to see this thread finally turned serious.
upvote for reintroducing ante in legacy.
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Humphrey
glad to see this thread finally turned serious.
upvote for reintroducing ante in legacy.
I would thoroughly enjoy a 4 Chaos Orb Legacy.
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Ace/Homebrew
We're pretty close with Sanctum Prelate right?
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Megadeus
We're pretty close with Sanctum Prelate right?
Nope... can't play Prelate off Ancient Tomb
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Ace/Homebrew
oooooof....on the one hand, chalice is the worst thing about magic....on the other hand...Mind's Desire is awesome....
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taconaut
oooooof....on the one hand, chalice is the worst thing about magic....on the other hand...Mind's Desire is awesome....
Does not compute. Chalice and Desire are probably my two favorite magic cards.
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Admiral_Arzar
Does not compute. Chalice and Desire are probably my two favorite magic cards.
How schizophrenic of you.
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I want Frantic Search back. Let's make Solidarity a thing again.
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Admiral_Arzar
Does not compute. Chalice and Desire are probably my two favorite magic cards.
Can you elaborate on why chalice is your favorite card? I can get behind desire but chalice baffles me. (Maybe link to stompy discord explains it all though?
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Can you elaborate on why chalice is your favorite card? I can get behind desire but chalice baffles me.
Maybe it's the sort of thing like perfume, where there has to be a disgusting, musky undertone to round out the fragrance.
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Maybe it's the sort of thing like perfume, where there has to be a disgusting, musky undertone to round out the fragrance.
It's a fragrance called 'Opponent's Tears'. :tongue:
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Ace/Homebrew
It's a fragrance called 'Opponent's Tears'. :tongue:
Fuck yes. Played Stax tonight. Dam its so much fun.
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How schizophrenic of you.
I mean, I started Legacy on system combo decks, the more complex the better. Played a ton of different Storm variants, and High Tide remains my favorite Legacy deck of all time. Nowadays I tend to play Tomb/City-based decks, whether they include Chalice or not (most do, but I love me some Painter).
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Can you elaborate on why chalice is your favorite card? I can get behind desire but chalice baffles me. (Maybe link to stompy discord explains it all though?
I like prison decks and have always preferred board control strategies to stack control strategies. Since MBC, Enchantress, and similar decks are unplayable in this format, I have gravitated towards Chalice decks and occasionally Lands in the last 4-5 years. Chalice is also the best hate card against cantrips, and I strongly dislike how the cantrip shell has come to dominate Legacy and caused the format to cease to resemble the one I enjoyed so much 7-8 years ago.
Also, expanding on my response to Secretly.A.Bee, I don't like fair blue decks. Blue for me was always an enabler for system combo. As those decks (particularly High Tide) got worse, and the agro strategies I also liked died out, prison decks became the go-to strategy that wasn't a fair blue deck. I like artifacts a lot as well considering I started playing right around OG Mirrodin. This has become way too random, and I'm sure if I thought about it I could come up with other reasons so I'll stop now.
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It's a fragrance called 'Opponent's Tears'. :tongue:
My favorite liquid upon which to quench my thirst while playing magic.
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Admiral_Arzar
I like prison decks and have always preferred board control strategies to stack control strategies. Since MBC, Enchantress, and similar decks are unplayable in this format, I have gravitated towards Chalice decks and occasionally Lands in the last 4-5 years. Chalice is also the best hate card against cantrips, and I strongly dislike how the cantrip shell has come to dominate Legacy and caused the format to cease to resemble the one I enjoyed so much 7-8 years ago.
Thats not really an answer though. Ok, why do you like prison/board control strategies? (Even though I would like to know, which stack based control deck exists in legacy, miraclces plays as much elemonts of board control as it plays of stack control.) I for example like decision based interactive games (like most mtg players overall). Thats why I fail to understand how slamming a lock piece on t1 and then either winning when its good enough or loosing when its not is any fun, but I accept that it is for some people. Unfortunatly right now there seems to be less and less of that (at least on mtgo). Everybody is trying to throw their Chalice/Blood Moon/B2B/Choke-shit at each other... I am close to throwing 100$into arena to play standard cause it looks terrific atm.
Even though chalice is the best hate for cantrips it's just broken in a format which is first and foremost about tempo and thus forcing decks to focus on low cmc spells.
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Thats not really an answer though. Ok, why do you like prison/board control strategies? (Even though I would like to know, which stack based control deck exists in legacy, miraclces plays as much elemonts of board control as it plays of stack control.) I for example like decision based interactive games (like most mtg players overall). Thats why I fail to understand how slamming a lock piece on t1 and then either winning when its good enough or loosing when its not is any fun, but I accept that it is for some people.
For some people, including me, permanent-based control is just more attractive than stack-based control. You have your cards on the battlefield, you can use them, tap or activate, they have a continuous effect usually, you can block or attack if it's a creature... etc. Generally, you have "built" something, you have "more" from your cards over multiple turns, in contrary to a counter spell.
Second, the tears and moaning from your opponents :-)
And you still have decisions to make.
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MorphBerlin
Even though chalice is the best hate for cantrips it's just broken in a format which is first and foremost about tempo and thus forcing decks to focus on low cmc spells.
That's bullshit imo. It's like saying "Force of Will is broken in a format which is about fast combo decks and thus forcing them to include disruption".
Force of Will keeps combo decks in check. Chalice keeps cantrip/tempo decks in check.