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Interesting - went 6-1 in the legacy challenge.

https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/1281194#paper

Discuss?

Yeah the link above gives the breakdown but I saw it on the live coverage.

Hoping to get it on camera, seems the pros are really favoring this architype, makes me pleased 😀 let's hope it has a...

Looks like Grixis Control is the most played list at the Pro Tour, with a whooping 20 entries! Sneak n Show and Eldrazi were 2 and 3 respectively.

We'll see how it does this weekend but I thought...

No need to apologize at all, I just misunderstood the part about k command :) I agree the value engine is certainly grixis and it's very viable but many are having some success with Bug control as...

This confused me, can you please elaborate what you mean? Snapcaster is a blue card, hymn is a black card, so the only card you mentioned in that list that's Grixis is K Command, which is a fairly...

He ended up going 4-1, losing to RUG delver. Same list as the 5-0 on MTGGoldfish.

Pretty good games, deck seemed solid despite the lack of one drops.

Latest 5-0's are out on MTGO post ban, this is the version listed for Grixis Control.

https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/1183667#paper

Some interesting choices, thoughts?

Side note, really...

This is my take as well.... don't know how 4C can live now without deathrite, you can't just swap in 4 BoP, deathrite is one card that is literally irreplaceable.

That said, BUG and Grixis shells...

I agree, it likely makes more sense to stick with red due to K-Command and Bolts. Green also has Leovold but I think Kess would be a good solution.

I'm just saying, there's lots of choices and we...

Oh sorry, that came out wrong. Yes absolutely they rely on deathrites but I don't think the deck instantly dies as a result of the banning. They'll adapt the same as the other deathrite decks.

Solid point. I played RUG delver for a while and IIRC it traditionally never played any basics at all. A Blood Moon was nearly impossible to break out of, especially if you had a slow hand and...

Sultai Leovold was a thing before the bannings as well, which doesn't rely on deathrites. I think both Grixis Control and BUG Control shells are reasonable to go into now, and make sure you all load...

https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/news/july-2-2018-banned-restricted-update-2018-07-02

Yeah, it'll have to go into BUG or Grixis, depending on what you want to do...

Sadness

Couldn't agree more on the 3rd hymn, I too play 3 and can't see myself going back. There's just too many times it wins games, actually my spell suite looks fairly similar to yours. Currently I'm on 3...

I have not tried the 3rd Jace but I think if I was adding another planeswalker to the MD, it would be a Liliana, the Last Hope over a 3rd Jace. Jace IS awesome, he wins a lot of games but having 2...

Have you tried Gurmag Angler? He's pretty solid as a finisher, especially on a lower creature count, where I assume you have more spells than the average list.

In regards to the Wasteland...

Just read the article, I don't have any experience with goyf in this shell but I trust that he playtested the crap out of the Grixis Delver matchup, so his advice holds a lot of weight IMO and it's...

I find she's been so much better than LotV but I still find a lot of people using the latter (with success), so I'm not sure if I'm simply "doing it wrong" or not?

The other thing I'd love to...

Agree with all this, not sure why Goyf would be good against Grixis but certainly a quick clock against combo and can block a lot of high end creatures in most stompy lists.

I keep fluctuating...

Excellent, thank you kindly for the link! Always love to read new stuff for legacy.

Played 4c tonight at our local store, such a great crowd legacy folks are <3. I ended up going 1-1-1, beating Burn (no typo), losing to Nic Fit and drawing against the mirror. The Nic Fit match ended...

Thank you for taking the time to write such a detailed answer; you nailed it, this is exactly what I'm struggling with. It usually comes down to; what land do I fetch with first (99% of the time I...

Long time legacy player here but first time piloting 4C Leovold. I'm really enjoying the deck and was wondering if anyone has had any pointers they can give to a new player? I've already read the...