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I've experimented with 2-3 daze in the past. It's incredibly swingy here, and can be really strong. Feels good to have extra backup for the T1 land ritual entomb shallow grave

That said, it's...

Glad to hear the counterbalance plan was at least decent - I've been chewing on that idea for a couple months, but never had the gumption to try it.

The mentors in the main idea - now THAT is...

I was there and saw at least 2 Eldrazi lists, though I'm not sure how they placed.


@Phazon - How do you like the 2 Swords in the board? Are they for clearing the way for mentor, or do you find...

That's hot fire right there.

Thanks for the clarifications. I agree that LDV is slow - I've been a little resistant to it for that reason. I finally broke down and tested it, and haven't swooned yet. 2 tops in place of 2 LDV is...

This will probably be answered in greater detail with your data, but generally speaking, did you like the tops? I've toyed with the idea of picking some up for this deck, but thought they'd be too...

Maybe. I'm still 50/50 between Tin Fins & Reanimator.

Feels like Reanimator will be more resilient and better equipped to fight DRS (I run Show and Tell), but I have more experience (and...

Curious - are any of you bringing Tin Fins to GP SeaTac?

I'm wavering between it and Reanimator. I have more experience with Tin Fins, and it's more fun. I've never played an event this size...

All those black border cards look amazing.

Questioning some choices though. Not sure that Careful Study or 4x Griselbrand is where we want to be. But I understand if you commit to one, it makes...

Something a friend of mine brought up: mucking around with non-fatty creatures could potentially screw us w/r/t shallow grave. If Jace eats a removal spell and ends up above Griselbrand, that's...

Baby Jace could be worth testing, but not in the list Majors provided. His list is just a worse version of Reanimator. The fact that he (admittedly) hasn't played Tin Fins really shows in some of his...

Went 2-2 in a 4 round weekly last night (51 people). It was my first time playing magic in six weeks, and first time on Tin Fins in ~10 weeks (been dabbling with Reanimator). Felt good to be back. I...

Well, sheepish, but I completely spaced on the "Karaks Thalia, vial into play" line - probably because it's never actually happened to me. But yes, Dread of Night is way better there.

Thanks for...

Can someone walk me through the thought process of choosing Dread of Night over Massacre? Massacre hits any hatebear you could worry about, whereas Dread of Night is noticeably worse against X/2s.
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You could take a page from the Grixis book and play a Gurmag Angler or two.

This new Mulligan rule gives us a boost.

I use 3x Ice Age brainstorm and 1 beat up white bordered "Beatdown" set Brainstorm.

I also riffle shuffle every time, and have been for the past 15 years, so my cards are bent as fuck.

Also one...

Well isn't that an odd list...no white producing land. 2 Reanimate, 4 Griselbrand, 2 Children, no MD Tendrils, 4 Thoughsteize...some of those choices look odd to me. And the sideboard, 3 Leyline...
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3-1'd my local weekly with 3x Daze in the main.

Rd. 1: vs DnT, 2-1 (G3 he karakased my Griselbrand, but I drew 14 and was able to Daze my own Ponder to get to 10 storm, felt good).

Rd. 2: vs....

Honestly still a little unclear on Powder, I need to research more on the timing. But as was just mentioned, not sure it's in our favor.

One thing to bear in mind is, with the "traditional" list,...

3-0-1'd (ID on the last round) a local weekly running 4x Serum Powder, 2x Pull from Eternity, also had 4x Gemstone Caverns in the board.

I didn't draw enough of the spice to get a good feel for...

Lately I've been running 2 Griselbrand, 6 discard spells, no LDV. I think your concerns about being overly reliant on Entomb are valid. I may go up to 3 Griselbrand.

This next week I'm trying the wacky Pull From Eternity build, but after that I want to test Daze. What did you cut for 2x-3x Daze?

The life loss on Spoils of the Vault seems brutal though. How did the testing go? I'd be concerned you'd get at least 1 fewer Griselbrand activations. 2 should be enough to get you to Children I...

Yeah that looks right. I think my count was wrong after all, so the 1 Reanimate gets to stay.

I won't say this list is better than the traditional one (not sure anyone would at this point) - but...