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"TES, SI, Belcher and Dragon Stompy, all bad decks"

yea, all bad decks.

SI, Belcher never really were a problem. Minimum of hate, in other words a decent legacy makes you win against them....

uhmm yes, you are absolutly right!

Robert

Even knowing you are going to win next turn?

I havent been able to make a lethal Tendril yet... Can you put up an example? Fictional or not, it doesn't matter. Just for me to get an idea

Robert

I am actually trying something with
Grapeshot + Helm

and

Tendril of Agony

as kill condition and i am liking very much the grapheshot! In fact, i haven't won once with the tendril! I am...

for the 4 orim's slot, ive splitted
1 thoguthseize
2 abeyance (might go for a third)
not sure about the fourth

i was thinking of cutting
1 IGG
1 infernal tutor

to put in some LDV

But assuming it is impossible for me to get the Chants, what replacement to it? Even if suboptimal. Because the deck is no relying on Graveyard, can Fow/Thoughtseize do the job?

Robert

i just finished building the deck, will start goldfishing soon. However, i am missing the 4 orim's chant

what would you suggest at it's place? 4 thoughtseize? Extirpate? Abeyance?

Robert

I just finished a compilation by going through informations of my metagame. Ive excluded all random decks

ThreshThreshThreshThreshThreshThreshThreshThresh 10
landstill 8
Burn 6
slivers 4
Goyf...

some maths....

sdt + sdt + helm + grape = 5 mana kill. Or...
Helm, sdt sdt + grape = 3 mana kill.

I just read the last few posts quickly and i am not sure why the Grapeshot is sb. Does it has...

sensei's divining top help,

mystical tutor to put a card on top of the deck,

brainstorm to save some spells

but yes, discard should be some difficult deck to beat

Robert