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Really? I think jace is one of the reasons i play this decks. U can accelerate it out and protect it well.

Im surprised that you arent playing any jace tms.

I think the best cards vs those three decks are baleful strix so I would max out on those

@btm10 so I'm I interperting ur math correctly, u are punished 40% of the time of u force there? 20% good draw, 40% push and 40% bad draw? I'm not saying I am correct nor others are wrong, I just...

I am down to one mb and the only reason i still have one (i hate the card) is that i think its the best follow up to t2 hymn vs storm. it gives you a fighting chance to beat them game one and it...

Its 8% chance they have two in their opening hand. 22% they find a second top after they cast their first brainstorm or ponder on turn 2. If they have force + blue card, they are just going to force...

and if they have say 50 cards in their deck and 3 tops left, they are still only about 22% to find a top when they cast the first ponder/brainstorm so its actually harder then you think to find the...

Games where they have top and when they dont have top are like night and day. Its easy mode when they dont have top so im gonna take my chances and not play around the second top because i believe we...

So you think you are gonna beat a first turn top with this hand? Do you think you can beat first turn top in the long game? Im interested in why you think this is a losing play?

I had a chill and a white leyline

Went 5-1-1 at a local 1k. 40 people. Beat death blade three times, DnT and grixis delver. Lost to tin fins. I'm starting to think that we should just not board vs the bad matchup (burn) and only...

I would 100% of the time force top there, games go long and it is their best card vs this deck. Them without top makes your discard better and some decks dont even play angels anymore.

What do you guys think is the best card vs miracles?

I agree with rickster but i think you want more hymns vs combo decks and dont think you want too many thoguhtseizes vs most decks after board.

I played UR delver 3 times and 1 miracles day one. But is did play elves 4 times when i won and easily 4-0 so i think the match up a good one. I dont think sneak and show is a bad match up and if...

So is everybody on the white sb plan now?

What do you mean by built correctly? I'm I misbuilding my deck? How many blue cards should one have in their deck if they choice to play with 4 force of wills?

I would not play 4 visions because they are dead in the mid/late game so adding a dig helps with that problem. And 4 forces is too many imo because the deck is already short on blue cards

Has anybody played extensively with Tasigur, the Golden Fang? Is it good, bad, neither? Should i add it to the deck?

That sounds like a control deck to me...

I still wouldnt play chill in the board to beat burn. i still think that they can beat through a chill. The deck is pretty slow

I am actually a big fan of spell pierce atm. I feel like its better than Flusterstorm right now. It counters bloodmoon, which is important right now vs show and tell and miracles. Countering Jace and...

Why do you like hymns gerry? To me, the the match up feels like it is about very specific cards and not about card advantage.

Also i am not a shardless bug savant. Just someone who has played the deck A LOT. We all have our own play styles so if you find something that works for you then by all means go with it.

I dont think liliana protects you from Natural order, which i think is their main way to win post board. Liliana going up doesnt do anything and going down kills one creature which is a pretty...