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    Re: Escape Brain Freeze

    Interesting. He's using the same URW shell as a few of us, with some similarities (ETutor, Silence, Defense Grid, Chain of Vapor, Serenity, 1-of Grinding Station) and some interesting choices:

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    Re: Escape Brain Freeze

    I realized Defense Grid, Silence and Teferi, Time Raveler already beat Extirpate just like they beat Surgical. Extirpate is just harder to beat with counters and stack timing. I cut back on Silent...
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    Re: Escape Brain Freeze

    This is what I'm on now. It's been running pretty well.


    //Lands: 15
    4 Scalding Tarn
    4 Flooded Strand
    3 Volcanic Island
    2 Tundra
    1 Island
    1 Plains
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    Re: Escape Brain Freeze

    For Tormod's Crypt/Relic of Progenitus/Nihil Spellbomb I have a 1-of Pithing Needle in the SB (in the URw lists with 4 ETutor). It seemed like a clean answer without taking up too much space....
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    Re: Escape Brain Freeze

    Good results! I might start playing Thought Scour over Preordain.




    How has it been against mana denial decks? Did you face much Delver or D&T?



    Where has Veil shined for you that...
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    Re: Escape Brain Freeze

    What about just playing Brazen Borrower then? Does the 1 cmc of Chain make a difference?
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    Re: Escape Brain Freeze

    Yeah I do well against blue decks. If you struggle against permanent hate, consider more solutions to them. Your sideboard looks more like an anti-stormhate SB than an anti-GYhate SB.

    Running 2...
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    Re: Bolas's Swamp Thing

    But it's easier to cast Doomsday than to hardcast Bolas, so if there's a winning Doomsday pile, why not have the option to just play that?

    Can the deck only win with hardcast Bolas + Doomsday as a...
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    Re: Bolas's Swamp Thing

    The other nice thing about the red list is it's low in lands. With a high land count Bolas will do nothing a lot, unless you also have tutors.
    +4 Land Grant
    It lets you both lower the land count...
  10. Thread: 4 Card Blind

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    Re: 4 Card Blind

    You should win OTP vs Tyler.

    H: Fume Spitter
    T: Treetop

    H: Cry of Contrition x2. He only gets to keep 1 card. If he keeps Elixir, he can't use it. If he keeps Trophy, he can't use it. If he...
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    Re: Escape Brain Freeze

    Works even better in the Emry shell using Mox Opal instead of LED, because you can even float mana between sacrifices!
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    Re: Escape Brain Freeze

    Ok this build speeds things up enough to make the critical turn 2 instead of 3, but at the cost of protection.


    //Lands: 14
    4 Scalding Tarn
    4 Flooded Strand
    3 Volcanic Island
    2 Tundra
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    Re: Bolas's Swamp Thing

    If you're on the creature-based plan, what about
    Goblin Welder
    Entomb


    Getting Citadel into play seems like the hardest part and that would help.
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    Re: Escape Brain Freeze

    I find she is stronger in the explosive lists with more artifacts (e.g 4 Mox Opal). In those lists she often comes out on turn 1, milling 4 early. Then there's a chance you untap with her to reuse a...
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    Re: Escape Brain Freeze

    Have you tested it much? From all my testing, the deck doesn't need self-mill for a turn 3 win. Turn 3 goldfishes are easy with almost any configuration of the deck. There are a dozen ways to set it...
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    Re: Escape Brain Freeze

    Thanks for posting your list AngryBacon!



    When I found Looting was bad, it was in the older cantrip-heavy lists with 4 Looting, 0 Emry, 0 Echoes, and 4 Rite of Flame. Echo should make Looting...
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    Re: Escape Brain Freeze

    I tested Faithless Looting. The card disadvantage hurts. Most of the time I wanted any cantrip more, even Preordain (digs 1 card deeper). The deck needs a few mana sources and pieces to go off, so...
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    Re: Escape Brain Freeze

    It's a good idea, but like Cire said, it's just not realistic to have that much mana open for Wipe Away. 3 mana is a lot.

    I think Silence/Abeyance and Defense Grid are a better way to beat...
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    Re: Escape Brain Freeze

    Turn 1 - 83% OTP, 86% OTD (playing land + Gamble)
    Turn 2 - 86% OTP, 88% OTD (playing T1 land + cantrip, T2 Gamble)
    Turn 3 - 88% OTD ...
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    Re: Escape Brain Freeze

    Missing LED isn't a big deal. You can mill yourself into it with BF/Scour/Emry. Or, once you build up enough graveyard, you escape Petal multiple times to make mana.

    Breach + Petal + BF + 0 cards...
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    Re: Escape Brain Freeze

    Good thoughts, not meaning to be critical, just not sure it would push the deck in a different direction.



    This was raised (by Lemon?) a few pages back. It's why that is not the plan A. There...
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    Re: Escape Brain Freeze

    Good points. Frenzy could be very strong. Would you just play a 1-of to grab with tutors?

    Paradoxical Outcome is cute but it's win-more in that list. I just wanted to play PO in Legacy, but it...
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    Re: Escape Brain Freeze

    It's very consistent at going off turn 3 with protection, sometimes on turn 2, worst case turn 4 if I had to cast 4 cantrips plus Wish/tutor to find the right cards.

    I'm trying to figure out if I...
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    Re: Escape Brain Freeze

    Interesting! Emry looks strong.

    One of the top 2 builds I've been testing the last few days is similar (the other is URw and very close to what Cire and Lemon have). Your Enlightened Tutors and...
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    Re: Breach Phoenix

    Maybe -5 lands, +1 Taiga +4 Land Grant? It's another free sorcery to help trigger Phoenix and fill your yard for Breach.

    Also Street Wraith for both Breach and Hollow One?

    Gamble seems good...
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