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So what would the other 10 sb cards look like aside from land+4 mages

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So I'm not 100% on the meddling magen in the board. Does it take the place of hymn/seize in the board? Does it only come in against combo? What land usually comes out for the scrub/Savanah?

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So with the anti discard spells out of the picture what is the downside of maxing out on hymns mb?

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They will never unban mystical because then miracles will be the best deck bar none with the ability to put anything to counter via counterballance or an on demand terminus or EtA.

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The. Why not just use last whisper? Cost less for 1 less card. Or even sign in blood as a possible shock when thier <3

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Well more hymns would be the reason to run more MD snares

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Divert mainly. I play both this and bug and I'm leaning more tward this. Diverting a decay to thier own goyf can be game ending

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So would it be a thing to run a few copies of vice in the side to help against combo? Drop it early and just stifle/waste/pierce them out of the game? Maybe for the white based control decks that use...

That's true but I think it's going to revert and not alot people are going to go back to sneak other then the dedicated SnT players and that means DnT will get bigger

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Rug, reanimator, bgx shells, lands

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Since omni is all but out of the picture is it safe to run 2 spell snare in the main? It was only bad against omni and now hymns are going to be more popular, along with more graveyard hate in boards...

Then you are playing against people playing miracles sup optimally. With counterballance and terminus they have a great game against us

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It's the bane of this deck

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Now I could be wrong but with omni gone there will be a bigger influx on miricles which is bad for this deck. I really do like this deck but in my meta there's is alot on miricles and (was) a decent...

Terminus doesn't deserve a ban, Top does. This is coming from a delver player but I do think that this deck is a nessisary evil so it's not all delver decks all the time. AND so I can still justify...

Yea I played bug for a while and got volcs to play grixis and figured I'd spend another $20 on geese and the rest of rug and I absolutely love this deck.

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Well now that there isn't a flat way to punish people/recoup from for playing hymn/lili I think that the heavy discard will be better, besides the fact that rug does stifle better anyway

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So would this mean that the hymn version is the better version now that lili and hymn are back in contention?

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So with dig banned is this going to be the premier delver deck again?

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Why? If our entire plan relies on countering/surgicaling SnT, it's a back up plan. Unless we are expecting YP you are not going to board in creature hate so young pyro is just going to run rampant
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Yea it's seems like people forget that we have access to dark confidant, which is arguably better for this deck then DTT

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Hey all I'm new to this deck and I was wondering what this decks worst matchups were and what are some basic sideboarding ideas.
My list is the basic 54 with 2 spell peirce, 2 forked bolt 1...

It's ment to mess up thier top activations by consistently changing (removing) thier top 3. It can also serve as a win con if you can manage to remove/deal with thier mentor/jace/Eta and just mill...

But that's what I was asking. Just using delver, drs and goyf, keeping it more bug w/o YP seems fine. Just bug delver with bolt and blasts

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From my understanding burg tempo ran pyromancer and was more grixis delver with drs and decay

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