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I'm very bearish on this archetype now with the astro ban.
Let us know how the testing goes but I'm not optimistic

Maindeck pop is really bad in Delver unless you can reliably pivot to being a burn deck, which you can't really do with this list (compared to e.g. a UR delver list which would probably have multiple...

2 Valakut the Molten Pinnacle
4 Misty Rainforest
4 Steam Vents
4 Stomping Ground
1 Watery Grave
1 Overgrown Tomb
1 Breeding Pool
3 Island
2 Forest
2 Mountain

Haha I forgot about this
Im probably about to go 0-3 with Scarab God in my deck and then put it away never to try it again


Probably true for every non-oko non-arcanist deck right? Don't get too...

Enlightened tutor for humility/moat

The most recent list you posted (the esper tokens one) just feels like unsound deckbuilding,
- mana is super greedy in terms of colour requirements +...

Sounds like you have discovered why I like History of Benalia lol

I think the main combo (ISOG + Leyline) is an ok idea but it seems way too undersupported here with only 4x Leyline to enable it, and ISOG only casts permanent spells so you have the combo of 4x ISOG...

Sounds good


I would be careful about this because Omen of the Sea and the Edict enchantment are pretty clunky on their own by legacy standards and without Estrids Invo I am less sure if you have...

Yeah this is probably true I think, I was dreaming it's like a History with other upside but it needs more flying support to be a decent card because otherwise by itself it's too easy for the...

This is fine, I like maindeck veto in uw sharkstill

There is also a new card:

The Raven's Warning 1WU
Enchantment - Saga
I: Create a 1/1 blue flying bird token and gain 2 life
II: Whenever...

FTW has correctly identified that the problem with the 1WWB saga is that it's easy to exploit the fact it can be just a 4 mana Serra Angel
History has the a similar problem in this deck in the sense...

As a maindeck card for your list I agree this _might_ be better than court of grace, I would test it

That's pretty amazing actually, I didn't consider this, maybe I will reevaluate the importance of History even in the non-Yorion version when this is a tactical option that is available.


He...

This is where I'm at with my estrid/saga build which I have posted in this forum before

5 Plains
5 Island
4 Strand
4 Vista
1 Tundra
1 Polluted Delta

4 Brainstorm

My idea for a yorion build

31 Lands
1 Hall of Heliod
1 Mistveil Plains
1 Arch of Orazca
4 Temple
4 Nykthos
20 Plains

x4 Birth of Meletis x0 Wall of Omens seems really weird to me
If we assume that etb tutor 1 plains is exactly equal to drawing 1 card then

Meletis Pros:
- Gain 2 life
- If they use creature...

Going to try testing this maindeck:

12 Snow Plains
4 RW Temple
4 Nykthos
1 Arch of Orazca
1 Mistveil Plains
1 Hall of Heliod's Generosity

4 Wall of Omens

I was messing around with a version of this for a bit in the run up to eternal weekend and it seemed ok but I'm not an experienced depths/combo player and I couldn't get familiar enough with it for...

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Permanents with a continuous replacement effect that modifies how things enter the battlefield don't apply until that permanent itself is actually on the battlefield (for example Orb of Dreams...

The problem is that drawing extra cards with Monarch is useless post-ideal because you can't cast anything.
The other problem is that trying to even play Enduring Ideal in the first place is...

For the blue one this is just the narset/echo deck

You could put the black one in the Curse stompy deck to make plays like this
I don't think you want to play Unmask because the whole point of a...

Stifle is already a much worse card on the draw and has basically been consigned to history at this point, you think the playability of fetchlands is going to be severely impacted by a hate card that...

I think Plague Reaver could be very strong in a version of the deck that emphasizes Loam
- Loam lets you refill your hand to discard cards to this
- In a Loam deck you probably have tutors for...

If you cast E Tutor for astrolabe and then cast astrolabe you went -1 cards and spent 2 mana just to fix your colours. If you have a 7 card hand without any blue sources then you can take a mulligan...

Yes, at the moment I am leaning toward no-replenish. (Although the burning wish idea is kind of cute lol)


Maybe there is some misconception with how the deck plays. In my experience this is like...