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  1. Thread: [DTB] U/R Delver

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    Re: [Deck] U/R Delver

    I'm not saying Risk Factor is a bad card for this deck. With that said, just because lists are doing well with that card in them doesn't necessarily make it a good card for the deck either.

    This...
  2. Thread: [DTB] U/R Delver

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    Re: [Deck] U/R Delver

    I'm pretty sure you can alternate cast spells; nothing on the card says otherwise.

    The Spectacle mechanic looks awesome, especially on instants (can cast in response to an opponent's fetchland),...
  3. Thread: [DTB] U/R Delver

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    Re: [Deck] U/R Delver

    Seal of Removal is useful against Show and Tell, where the other bounce spell options are not remotely as good, which is why I prefer it.

    I'd much rather run Pithing Needle instead of Alpine Moon,...
  4. Thread: [DTB] U/R Delver

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    Re: [Deck] U/R Delver

    Sure.

    R/u Sligh

    Lands (18)
    3 Scalding Tarn
    3 Wooded Foothills
    2 Bloodstained Mire
    2 Arid Mesa
    4 Volcanic Island
  5. Thread: [DTB] U/R Delver

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    Re: [Deck] U/R Delver

    Miracles did lose with bannings though... they lost Sensei's Divining Top. The Miracles matchup still isn't great, but not having to worry about the hard softlock of CounterTop makes the matchup...
  6. Thread: [DTB] U/R Delver

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    Re: [Deck] U/R Delver

    I just play my Sligh list, which has basically been the same for ages. The metagame feels much more favorable to me now, with ANT actually being a winnable matchup again, no more DRS to accelerate...
  7. Thread: [DTB] U/R Delver

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    Re: [Deck] U/R Delver

    The problem with running 4 TNN is that it costs 3 mana in a deck with only 18 lands, with 4 of them being Wasteland. Even Grixis Delver pre-ban with DRS didn't run that many copies.

    It's no doubt...
  8. Thread: [DTB] U/R Delver

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    Re: [Deck] U/R Delver

    The deck pretty much crushes Goblins. I mean, I've lost games to Goblins before when I get stuck on a one-lander, don't get me wrong, but when the deck works as intended, it demolishes Goblins. Too...
  9. Thread: [DTB] U/R Delver

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    Re: [Deck] U/R Delver

    I disagree. I don't think the deck lost much. 1-2 points of extra damage from Probe is relevant, but it's minor. The fact that DRS is gone feels like a much bigger deal.

    I do think Grixis for...
  10. Thread: [DTB] U/R Delver

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    Re: [Deck] U/R Delver

    Stormchaser has always been the worst card in the deck and I've never understood why people played it. Especially with the way the metagame is now, it's either better to be hyper agressive with more...
  11. Thread: [DTB] U/R Delver

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    Re: [Deck] U/R Delver

    You should consider trying the list I posted a few pages back that cuts Ponder and maindeck Force of Will for more burn spells. The deck is super consistent and can goldfish on turn 3 with pretty...
  12. Thread: [DTB] U/R Delver

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    Re: [Deck] U/R Delver

    I also think this deck is much better off without DRS in the format, and should be one of the stronger decks going forward. I'm biased towards playing my Sligh list, but even the more traditional...
  13. Thread: [DTB] U/R Delver

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    Re: [Deck] U/R Delver

    Volcanic Spray. Although, sweepers seem mostly unecessary if you have a couple of Forked Bolt's and some Grim Lavamancer's.

    This deck should be crushing Goblins, though.
  14. Thread: [DTB] U/R Delver

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    Re: [Deck] U/R Delver

    Guide definitely needs to be ran in a shell focused on being as aggressive as possible. In a list with cards like Young Pyro, TNN, Reveler, Spell Pierce, etc... yeah, it's probably not going to work...
  15. Thread: [DTB] U/R Delver

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    Re: [Deck] U/R Delver

    Cut the Stormchaser and Reveler for 2 Grim Lavamancer, and you should be good to go. List looks solid. 3 Price of Progress is one too many for my tastes, but can be devastating in the right metagame....
  16. Thread: [DTB] U/R Delver

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    Re: [Deck] U/R Delver

    Also, I don't think the bans are going to be better for combo long-term. Losing Probe hurts ANT and TES pretty bad... and RUG Delver is going to still police the combo decks.

    There is going to be...
  17. Thread: [DTB] U/R Delver

    by Hanni
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    Re: [Deck] U/R Delver

    R/u Sligh

    Lands (18)
    3 Scalding Tarn
    3 Wooded Foothills
    2 Bloodstained Mire
    2 Arid Mesa
    4 Volcanic Island
    2 Mountain
    2 Barbarian Ring
  18. Thread: [DTB] U/R Delver

    by Hanni
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    Re: [Deck] U/R Delver

    If you're willing to lose some % in game one against Reanimator (and other combo decks), going the Sligh route dramatically improves the matchups against decks like D&T and Goblins. The deck is way...
  19. Thread: [DTB] U/R Delver

    by Hanni
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    Re: [Deck] U/R Delver

    Volcanic Spray is pretty cool, although I'm not sure that this deck is necessarily in the market for that sort of effect. Grim Lavamancer and Forked Bolt, in addition to the standard Bolt package,...
  20. Thread: [DTB] U/R Delver

    by Hanni
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    Re: [Deck] U/R Delver

    No one said DRS was a problem for this deck; the deck runs 8+ spot removal not counting Fireblast (12+ in my Sligh list). The point is that playing DRS yourself is much stronger than not if you are...
  21. Thread: [DTB] U/R Delver

    by Hanni
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    Re: [Deck] U/R Delver

    I have the opposite opinion. If you want to play tempo, splashing black is the superior choice because of the much better tools that you have access to. Those better tools overshadow any gains you're...
  22. Thread: [DTB] U/R Delver

    by Hanni
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    Re: [Deck] U/R Delver

    I've never liked Stormchaser. If you want to be hyper aggressive, Goblin Guide is better. If you want a more powerful midgame threat, Young Pyromancer is better. Stormchaser's overall power level is...
  23. Thread: [DTB] U/R Delver

    by Hanni
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    Re: [Deck] U/R Delver

    18 lands is much better for my decks tempo. I don't want to be stuck on 1 land, and I don't want to commit early game mana on cantrips to dig for land. I want to play a creature on turn one, and...
  24. Thread: [DTB] U/R Delver

    by Hanni
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    Re: [Deck] U/R Delver

    I run an even more oddball list that has FoW in the sideboard instead of the maindeck. Daze is way too good of a spell in a deck that operates on such a low curve. I dislike FoW main because it is so...
  25. Thread: [DTB] U/R Delver

    by Hanni
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    Re: [Deck] U/R Delver

    I run 4 Smash to Smithereens in my sideboard, but I'm not playing a traditional build of UR Delver either. I wouldn't be comfortable with only 2 copies, though. Chalice and Batterskull are massive...
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