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Do you think Eternal Masters will usher in some changes to the Banned List?

I think there will be something, either coming or going, since WotC is...

I don't dispute that entirely.

On second thought, I believe there is less focus on it from Wizards prospective because there are a lot fewer GPs and no ProTours... the data points are fewer.

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Those cards are still going to be great in Modern...

That said... Wizards... Really?



I think your giving Wizards too much credit here... I mean it's pretty clear they just don't care about...

I can't say that this is wrong, because it's 100% right.

But instead of focusing on the thing that Wizards is never ever going to do....

I think this is missing the point.

It's not about how quickly you can cast it, the reason Terminus is super super good is because you can wrath and then have a ton of mana left over to dig into...

Yes, CounterTop is a deck that existed long before Terminus was printed. The way I see it, Miracles is just the evolution of CounterTop with added Miracles Cards.

If Terminus did not exist...

Maybe someone should have....

Before the reply, I'll just say I think we are starting to get on the same page here.




I did not mean to imply that Miracles has more noobs then other decks.

The point I was attempting...

I wouldn't read into it too much.

IMO what it tells me is something we already knew, that familiarity with your deck is really important in Legacy.

If you want me to answer this question your first going to have to define what you mean by Tier 1, since there is NO actual commonly accpeted definition of what Tier 1 means. This is why the Source...

1) Why assume every pilot is actually the same. Is magic a game with zero skill, and the outcome of matches is entirely deterministic and random?

2) I do understand the DTBF, what your mistaken...

I do agree.

The DTB data also shows a much higher top 8 placment rate for Miracles over the past few months, as much as double the second place deck.

I do think the casuality matters. I don't...

What you are saying is that it is over represented... so my follow up question is why if other similarly powerful decks exist do people choose to play Miracles month in and month out?

IMO, the...

Gee it sure is strange how many people and pros decide to pilot a deck that merely 50/50 against the field every weekend... maybe they haven't gotten the "it's not that good" memo yet. IDK, maybe...

Two points:

1) I've asked before... what are these Tier One unfavorable MU that you keep referring too... (Goblins and 12-post? :laugh:)

2) Throwing this out there, but Miracle Control...

Omni only seemed like it was taking over because it was the hot new thing, Miracles still peformed very well in that meta. In fact if you use the DTB formula there was only one month since Omnitell...

Cruise and Dig were printed in fall 2014... Miracles fell at worst to DTB #2 (EDIT: Turn out it hit #3 a whole one time that I missed, before bouncing back into #1) during the time span from Fall...

It was nearly 24 months... not 12... for nearly 2 years now nothing has come close to unseating Miracles...
I think recent history is far more important then data points that are years and years...

I'm not exactly sure how you can say that... RUG Delver (or the various other names it appears under, Threshold UGR, Canadian Thresh) shows up right before the words "is out." in the DTB thread a...

Yeah, that is a valid point.

But I wasn't really looking at this time last year vis this time this year. I was commenting on the month to months shifts (using the same methodology). I noticed how...

I like how the DTB list keeps getting smaller over time as the diversity of the format is getting crushed under the might of the number one deck to beat 7 of the 12 months of the year (and the rest...

Miracles is the only exception right now because Miracles is the control deck of the moment, ban miracles and the new control deck that will take it's place will also run those cards....

I'm not 100% sure what you mean by the bolded part, so I am going to assume you mean what I'm talking about.

What it comes down to is that a deck that you can't really meta game against (because...

This depends on how you define "horrible." RUG does have some bad match-ups... Jund for example. I think Grixis Control was solid vs RUG delver, and I imagine that RUG Delver players don't like...

What are miracles "high number" of "moderately unfavorable" match-ups?

Also


is a total strawman argument.



Legacy would have a tier one control deck if miracles were banned tomorrow....