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If you're playing chalice on 1 and 2, then I think the downside of having your own canonists countered is pretty negligible because most decks will be locked out by that anyway. Still, you can...

I could be wrong here, but wouldn't it make sense for the mono-white lists to play 4 maindeck canonists? It seems like such a perfect card for this deck (artifact/hate-piece that's also a threat,...

Pretty interesting but messy list. I don't see the logic in moving forces to the side but running spell pierce and divert in the main, and then also running fewer than 4 thalia. Thalia seems like the...

There's also force of will to counter any spell type. Still, I agree that daze would make a good fit in the deck.

Chalice is definitely a concern, but at a certain point you have to accept that...

Thanks! I do think daze is great in this deck, but it's hard to find the balance between interaction and synergy pieces. Sage of Epityr is definitely the creature that is the most up in the air for...

Bumping this thread in case there has been anyone playing this deck or if there's been any interest in developing it further over the years.

I've been playing around with it lately, and I think...

Elves has lost its ability to win outside of combat, which is huge against blue fair and control decks. The deck is much more dependent on winning via one of its combos now, which has usually been...

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Nice, those are some interesting lists. I would love to see what their match ups were, because some of the card choices (especially in the sideboard of the bant list) are very odd.

For my...

I can see rattlehcains being better if you run cavern of souls. How has that been working for you?

Why silent gravestone in the sideboard? Seem pretty narrow.

Your blue mana count is pretty...

Thanks! I have considered karakas, but I don't want to play a 21st land. I could cut a 2nd plains for it but overall I think it's not worth the downside of making the manabase slightly more...

Went 3-0 at a weekly with the same list I played last week. 6-3 in games.

4x Flooded Strand
3x Island
2x Misty Rainforest
2x Plains
3x Tundra
4x Wasteland
2x Windswept Heath

Yeah, I definitely do see the upsides to phantasmal image. I may try something like -2 SFM -1 BSkull, +2 image +1 vendilion clique. I'm skeptical of image, but there really aren't any other 2-drops...

I think image is fine but situational, and there are spots where it is actually terrible. I haven't been too impressed with it so far, but I'm definitely willing to try it again.

My logic behind...

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Your conundrum over rattlechains and the potential alternatives is basically the reason why I'm running the full stoneforge package. It may not be necessary to run all 4 mystics or...

Finally got the chance to play this at a weekly. I went 2-1 in matches, 5-3 in games.

4x Flooded Strand
3x Island
2x Misty Rainforest
2x Plains
3x Tundra
4x Wasteland
2x Windswept Heath

I wasn't suggesting that rattlechains is a major consideration because it accommodates force of will. I was just pointing out that its floor isn't very low, and that's just one of several reasons...

I like your take on it. Rattlechains is pretty weak at times, but it does pull its weight when it comes to staying on theme. Giving your other spirits flash can be big, as is protecting them from...

This deck looks really sweet with the addition of stitcher's supplier and the loss of deathrite from the format. I think the deck needs bridge from below to really capitalize on its sacrifice...

This is the list I'm currently planning on running. I decided I want the main board to be as disruptive as possible. To put the forces back in the main and accommodate a solid creature count, I cut...

This is probably what I'm going to play once the new cards come out. I've flip-flopped on a few of my previous comments/thoughts on the deck, but we're in a new meta now so who the hell knows what...

Just registered an account to comment on this thread. This deck looks sweet and I'm definitely going to build it once the new cards come out since I own all the expensive cards already.

I...