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    Re: [Primer] +Manaless Dredge+

    There is 2 possibility for him : Griselbrand or Emrakul. If he put Griselbrand and is full tap, he will draw 14 into maybe petal and force of will but won't create more threat. And Emrakul we don't...
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    Re: [Primer] +Manaless Dredge+

    Thanks you for this graph. It's show we got 85% for the usual 12 dredger, add 2 shambling shell get us to 90% when 4 only get us to ~93%, that's why I play 2 shambling shell MD.

    Some list try to...
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    Re: [Primer] +Manaless Dredge+

    I aggre with that, Force of will really don't seems relevant in the game 1.

    I play a lot versus ANT and I can assure that Mindbreak Trap don't do a trick because ANT have too much discard....
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    Re: [Deck] U/G Infect

    I agree with Adibou1er, Karakas do the same or better than bridge and can be tutor, the case where Karakas is bad against Sneak don't exist for me, I don't see where a bridge is better. Can someone...
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    Re: [Deck] U/G Infect

    If some of you have feedback on your adventure at GP Birmingham, please share :)
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    Re: [Deck] U/G Infect

    Quasali is an old and bad idea. First if you want to destroy an artifact you want it now so you will spent the 3 mana in the same turn. You don't want to take the risk to see Quasali destroy and...
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    Re: [Deck] U/G Infect

    Infect is good but struggled against eavy control deck, or créature control deck, and that's decks to beat in this meta (grixis delver, bug control etc)
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    Re: [Deck] U/G Infect

    @Zac in your report of SCG Atlanta you say you side in surgical but in the list i found in MTG top8 there isn't any surgical.
    http://mtgtop8.com/event?e=16327&d=300814&f=LE
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    Re: [Deck] U/G Infect

    Hi everyone, first post here for me, I play infect singe nearly 2 years. I recently discover I play a list really similar Zac 's one.

    I start to play Safekeeper MD instead of corruptor, it's maybe...
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    Re: [Primer] +Manaless Dredge+

    I play more of 120 rounds with it so at least 250 times, i think that having a shambling shell is not worth, i prefer have slot for Contagion to kill a shaman. I don't say my choice is right, but...
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    Re: [Primer] +Manaless Dredge+

    Hi boys, i don't come in this forum since a long time. I have tryhard Manaless Dredge since few years now and I see some of you have some interogation so let's see my point of vue :

    Prized Amalgam...
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    Re: [Primer] +Manaless Dredge+

    Against a shaman wih a good hand, i think the best plan is to wait some turn to draw a phantasmagorian or a Street wraith and hope for an explosif turn. If the hand is too slow you can also mulligan,...
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    Re: [Primer] +Manaless Dredge+

    Hi Zifbox and welcome in the wonderfull world of manaless =)



    To resume in a simple way : Spy list MD is better to go 4-0 but Wirlpool main is better to go 8-0. In small tournament, you don't...
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    Re: [Primer] +Manaless Dredge+

    After some good use of excel :
    In the case where you have shambling shell in hand and no other dredger (the probability is around 5%):

    A choice is bad when you don't dredge other dredger 4,5 or...
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    Re: [Primer] +Manaless Dredge+

    @ChemicalBurns, i think you're right about your feeling about the metagame.

    For this japanese deck, I don't like the idea to get spy in the main deck cause i always win by reanimate a whirlpool,...
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    Re: [Primer] +Manaless Dredge+

    Hi, I have a question, Did you think Vengefull Pharaoh is a "must have" ?
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    Re: [Primer] +Manaless Dredge+

    After doing the Last Chance Qualifier for the french cup and thé french cup (around 15 rounds) I think i will play 3 unmask in side for auto discard turn1 against Ad nauseam. Nothing more to say....
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    Re: [Primer] +Manaless Dredge+

    Force is maybe a must have with the RB reanimator which is really strong (Tiers 2 at least and getting more popular : cheap and fun), moreover lands players start to play eva green Depths because...
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    Re: [Primer] +Manaless Dredge+

    Maybe Force is not amazing game 1 but it's really good against a lot of combo G1, i think choosing between chancellor and FOW depend on the meta.



    Ichoride make you win.
    Force is need against...
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    Re: [Primer] +Manaless Dredge+

    He post a report on Legacy france : http://www.legacy-france.org/index.php?showtopic=12478&st=0
    But it's in french.

    This is a sum up on his event :

    Round 1 : VS 4C Stoneblade
    Game 1 : Swords...
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    Re: [Primer] +Manaless Dredge+

    Sure, but killing 2 cards never happen. Shaman and limon get 2 in endurance and for priest if she's dead it's win so the other creature don't matter.
    It 's cool vs Infect but he can pump a beast to...
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    Re: [Primer] +Manaless Dredge+

    Your point of vue is no sence because we don't choose between Force and CoA. And even if we have to choose Chancellor is better vs Shaman (but we still have street wraith and phantasmagorian to...
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    Re: [Primer] +Manaless Dredge+

    Congratulation ChemicalBurns for your result! Yes Manaless is not a deck that everyone likes because he is complicate to understand/cheap/no-biland. But the people who don’t respect the deck loose...
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    Re: [Primer] +Manaless Dredge+

    Some Tezzerator play Force and Ligneley. But only some random player who love the deck play Tezzerator.

    But the result with the counter is still true agasint grafdigger's cage or Rest in piece....
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    Re: [Primer] +Manaless Dredge+

    Get naturels claim : 40% (4 un the deck)
    Get a green source (4 driad arbor + 4 guide) : 65%
    -> could use nature's claim : 40*65= 26%
    Chance the enemy don't get a counter (4 daze + 4 FOW) : 35%...
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