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    Re: The Rogue Hermit

    Tomb of Urami is an option but doesn't hit as hard as Desecration Demon (same mana requirement). The Past in Flames kill saves you deck space by cutting down on the number of dead cards, making the...
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    Re: The Rogue Hermit

    Depending on the match-up, wishing for Magus of the Moon requires only 5 mana (as opposed to 6 for Desecration Demon / Phyrexian Obliterator). Containment Priest and Thalia/Canonist are also options...
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    Re: The Rogue Hermit

    I did answer your question. There is discussion about Tendrils of Agony because it can used be in the Past in Flames version of this deck (Noxious Revival and Burning Wish->ToA are options as well)....
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    Re: The Rogue Hermit

    I brought up the Past in Flames kill over half a year ago.

    Also, I agree with FinalFortune that Rite of Flame is a pretty mediocre source of mana due to the color fixing requirement. If you want a...
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    Re: The Rogue Hermit

    Some food for thought:
    - Undercity Informer can sacrifice Tinder Wall (costing 2 mana and 1 card) if land grant isn't drawn
    - Undercity Informer can sacrifice Dryad Arbor via Living Wish as well
    -...
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    Re: The Rogue Hermit

    I agree manamorphose is no longer needed (reflected in my sample lists). However, I think Living Wish (finding tomb of urami, magus of the moon, other fatty) is still pretty good because it gives you...
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    Re: The Rogue Hermit

    DA = deep analysis
    DR = dark ritual
    CR = cabal ritual
    PiF = past in flames
    ToA = tendrils of agony
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    Re: The Rogue Hermit

    1. Generate 5 mana (1 black, 1 green, 3 colorless).
    2. Mill library with one of the rogues (using 1 black, 3 colorless).
    3. Flashback memory's journey (using green) to put triple LED on top.
    4....
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    Re: The Rogue Hermit

    I just realized while brainstorming that Summoner's Pact can find creatures with forestcycling (i.e. Elvish Aberration). There are 4 total forestcycling creatures but aberration is best since you...
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    Re: The Rogue Hermit

    I believe he meant 2 bridge from below instead of DR. With that said, I would personally always run 4 narc (as opposed to 3/2 split) in the DR version. Without spy, your opponent can kill the first...
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    Re: The Rogue Hermit

    Thanks for writing the primer as it looks pretty solid! I did notice a small typo in the following phrase: "then accidentally your entire deck (technical term)." I think you forgot the word "grind"....
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    Re: The Rogue Hermit

    If playing the dread return kill, underworld cerberus only takes up two slots (itself + lab man) while still dodging removal and doesn't require the attack step. I would go with that.
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    Re: The Rogue Hermit

    Greg, you can go ahead and write the primer. I really appreciate the gesture though. :) Also, I would like to recognize those who have contributed feedback on this thread as well (FinalFortune,...
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    Re: The Rogue Hermit

    With regards to living wish, I don't think it should be boarded out in most instances since it provides the deck with so much versatility. It represents a balustrade spy, anti-graveyard hate bombs,...
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    Re: The Rogue Hermit

    Completely agree.



    The best alternative is chancellor of the tangle but it's a terrible top-deck and is a non-bo with cyclers. Mox opal is possible too but terribly inconsistent.



    This is...
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    Re: The Rogue Hermit

    Thanks, I think you'll agree that saving those 6 extra dead cards makes a big difference. You're welcome to refer to the last few pages of this thread for lines of play. The savings make the belcher...
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    Re: The Rogue Hermit

    Before making such a statement, I suggest you test either the living wish version Direlemming or I worked on. His version uses rite of flame instead of probes. Living wish represents 4 main deck outs...
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    Re: The Rogue Hermit

    I'm not sure about taking probes out for wraiths since probes act as pseudo protection in real life matches. Has rite of flame justified removing 4 cycling effects? Also, I think deadshot minotaur...
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    Re: The Rogue Hermit

    In the previous iteration with dread return, we both came to the conclusion that DRS isn't needed in most cases. However, DireLemming is working on the PiF kill, which requires green mana. Thus, you...
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    Re: The Rogue Hermit

    I agree it's better than the angel kill. However, the dread return package still has plenty of dead cards in the deck. Hard-casting the creature without summoner's pact isn't trivial either.

    I've...
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    Re: The Rogue Hermit

    I actually added tinder wall for the exact reason you stated. I compared previous iterations of this deck to belcher and noticed that while both decks have 20 initial mana sources (unless you're...
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    Re: The Rogue Hermit

    Thanks everyone for your suggestions. I've tried to incorporate all of your insights and have arrived at the list below:

    4 Lion's Eye Diamond
    4 Lotus Petal
    4 Chrome Mox
    4 Dark Ritual
    4 Tinder...
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    Re: The Rogue Hermit

    I don't agree with your assessment of noxious revival being a dead card. It takes the same slot as burning/death wish and allows you to recover from discard. You get the benefit of beating leyline of...
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    Re: The Rogue Hermit

    MD: -1 cunning wish, -1 probe, +1 noxious revival, +1 grim monolith
    SB: -1 noxious revival, +1 karakas

    Slight oversight by me. There's no need to wish for revival. The good thing about this is...
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    Re: The Rogue Hermit

    Surgical extraction and leyline of the void are definitely a concern. Living wish offers some help but it's likely not enough. I don't trust discard other than the singleton cabal therapy (pitching...
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