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    Maybe, but there's a lot to be said for being both cheatable and castable

    Griselbrand's existence is a fair counterpoint, but Griselbrand has non-negligible drawbacks in having to mass commit to...
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    "Turned out in testing" is just "turned out in theory" with extra hoops. It's still speculation. It could be correct speculation, people have made correct metagame predictions before, but it's still...
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    Zirda didn't "turn out" to be way too consistent, it was anticipated to be way too consistent. It never actually was remotely dominant in the brief time it was around; it honestly didn't even have an...
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    Academy Rector only costs 4 and Show and Tell only costs 3
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    Doesn’t it break its own chain when the dude gets 20 power?

    Even if not it doesn’t seem better than existing infinite life combos
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    I wouldn't write off Mind's Desire still getting broken as I don't think it's been brewed in sufficient shells, and it's just always going to be a lurking danger; as noted it's just a binary where...
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    I'm sorry, you think wheel effects are useless?

    Do you have an actual purpose besides trying to make yourself look as stupid as possible?

    "Durrr how dishonest you said Time Spiral wheels"
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    I mean there is deck building skill in figuring out how much you want to maximize storm count with Desire vs maximizing payoff, but there’s still a lot less constraints than something like Ad Nauseam...
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    Kindly, your back pedal is pathetic and you should stop while you’re ahead

    lmao “I’m inviting you to debate less fallaciously” go step on a lego
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    Kind of the whole point I was making is that when you get an enabler this powerful you should expect the boundaries to blur and new archetypes to emerge. It’s not just a card that gets jammed into an...
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    Show and Tell has played Grim Monolith and Chrome Mox for far less payoff.

    Also I think you are grotesquely underestimating the danger of Desire even for 3 in a deck that plays a dozen+ cards...
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    Because I thought that dull and inane point had already been sufficiently pounded into the dirt by pointing out that MD makes the spells free, but if you’re that much of a glutton for humiliation we...
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    Also like to be clear, Desire into Desire chains are stupid and we’re also not sufficiently discussing how easy they actually are to set up because unlike something like Time Spiral, Desire doesn’t...
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    It feels weird to have to explain to people that the only card that’s ever been pre-emptively banned before it was even legal is good tbh
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    Since those are what the cards do, yes
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    Desire is untapping infinite mana because you are casting the spells.
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    Mana acceleration and cantrips hth

    Again you don’t actually have to have a very high storm count for MD to be good
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    One big stumbling block I think people are hitting is an assumption that you need a runaway Mind’s Desire chain of Desiring into another Desire for it to be worthwhile, like just casting a half dozen...
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    Start with any Dream Halls Sneak and Show List, cut some mana slots for like Sea Gate Restoration and Lorien Revealed, cut four other random cards for Mind’s Desire. Decent starting point. Again...
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    You think that wheeling- discarding your hand and drawing seven cards, while letting your opponent do the same, is almost always better than just casting the top seven cards of your library for free...
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    What do you think the necessary storm count is for starters? I could use a laugh

    Also like what scenario are you imagining where Time Spiral is a better cast than Mind’s Desire?
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    I don’t know if I want to put the energy into trying, not least because of an obvious problem I think people itt are nonetheless missing:

    Mind’s Desire is insanely powerful but also insanely...
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    I find it very funny that Legacy players have this massive hardon for wheel effects and will jump through any conceivable hoop to make them kinda work, but apparently the concept that you can just...
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    Yeah man it seems a lot worse to pay less mana that’s on color to just cast your spells uncounterably with no drawbacks instead of drawing and not casting them for free and also losing life while...
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    There’s also more degenerate shit than Library of Alexandria or Wheel of Fortune, but they’re still not real obvious top unban picks
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