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The other poster was talking about Terastodon. You often blow up some of your own permanents to get the extra elephants, so dying to plow isn't a huge issue.

Other options: I don't think this...

This is a build that has more beef in the main, and a bit more grave hate and life gain (oozes) as supplemental disruption (where thoughtseizes had been). Edric is clearly weak in creature matchups,...

So your initial read would be that I should have a beat down aspect as the alt-win? Thoughtseize for goyf/GSZ targets or something of that ilk?

I use to play Bant NO, and there I always had Knight...

I have loved Natural Order decks for a long time. They all suffer from the problem of how to protect their fragile combo and how to regain card disadvantage inherent in casting Natural Order (and...