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You have the same manabase than me except changing a basic forest for Gaea's Cradle. I wouldn't change Horizon Canopy, and it sounds great having 4Mom + 4MM. For me Mom is essential for a Knight not...

IMHO, about equipment I don't understand people who package other Swords than F&I or L&S with Jitte and/or Batterskull (I mean switching F&I and/or L&S for B&M and/or F&F/W&P). Yes, protection from...

I haven't read the last pages of this thread, and don't know if were mentioned yet, but... What about including Noxious Revival? It works fine recycling wasted Glimpses and other useful cards. Helps...

Reading along these interesting thread, I think I'm going to modify mi list but basing in the following tutor base:

3 Living Wish
2 Summoner's Pact
2 Green Suns Zenith

These having a half...

It's so common play Joraga to continue the combo and after comboed and Emrakul being casted, bounce with Symbiote for a Joraga with tons of counters. It's simply marvellous.



Totally agree.
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I forgot that Masticore isn't tutorable with Zenith and Pact! :P Terastodon option is interesting, but doesn't hurts us a bit having to wait a whole turn to Peacekeeper not to be mantained? It's the...

I've seen some versions with a singletone Ulamog to preventing things like this (also helps for a Moat/Confinement, not only rely on Emrakul's annihilator 6). If I had to choose between Mortapod and...

Also GSZ for Witness having a Glimpse or Pact is simply marvellous, altought with one Glimpse is enough, having the second allow us to play more comfortable against a FoW or simply reach best the...

Preventing Opalescence to be countered... Why don't include Boseiju? About discard we have got a big problem, even more if we begin with Leyline of the Void in play... Or adding Vexing Shusher

Cutting the Wastelands in Legacy is not a great idea... Altough Elves works well without it, sometimes there are like life insurances... Also Skyshroud Elite it's more suitable in other type of...

I agree with that but Autumn's Veil is valid for both blue and black menaces and it's so versatile... Mass removal is a problem, but I'm of the opinion that best thing to do is playing all (or almost...

I think NO+Porg it's more suitable of the aggro version of Elves, as a second win condition, or in a Survival deck in the SB. In combo we must to maximize the slots to do the combo more reliable.

Doesn't need Summoner's Pact?

I haven't seen this options in the SB but sounds well. Specially I thought in Autumn's Veil opening M11 boosters...

Winter Orb is marvellous, we only need a land to play out.

I think so also, it's card choice. Maybe if you are good and patient when taking a mulligan to shuffle placing the discarded hand homogeneously in the deck to minimize the choice of no land draw...

It seems it's a conflictive point. I think it depends so much on the number of lands you play. If you play 13 lands like k2thej it's a better way to have wishable Cradle than Crop Rotation + main...

That's what I were thinking, maybe too much slots, with the past of the time the list of "untouchable slots" increase, but also... can we introduce Cradle in a Forest slot?

At least I suggest to play with 5 fetch, it's a reasonable mode of, at least, clean 2 slots with the 1st or 2nd land you play.

I must redesign my SB to include a Cradle. I don't play in a...

¿Which list are you using? I'm only testing the list in pc not in real play and giving my opinion of how the deck works. Altough Eternal Witness is so useful, maybe you're right. Worst about him in...

I'm hesitating between adding a second Regal Force in the SB or let the main Regal Force in the SB. I proved with -1 Emrakul, -1 Viridan Shaman and -1 Eternal Witness for the 3 Wishes as rukcus...

I've been proving the list with Wish and I like a lot, but I find a little disappointing can't use Wish to tutor some combo pieces. Maybe a slot can be used to add a second Regal Force, or something...

I'm agree with that clasification if we speak about opening hands and odds. Which is in your opinion the best possible hand/s?

I'm totally agree with that. Maybe there is no reason for including 4, but 3 would be a nice number to include Quirion Ranger. I think Priest/Archdruid are better with Concordant or something like...

But in which type of Elves deck? With one I think it's more than enough.

I think it's all about metagame questions... If the metagame is plagued with control decks and/or with decks with denial, I suppose your option with Leylines is the best. But if we live in an...