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I really want to one day Stifle a trigger from a Chalice on 2 to resolve a Tarmogoyf. I would probably run around the room with my hands up yelling like a madman.

KGrip and Golgari Charm are fine and worth bringing in, but discard is still very effective against Show and Tell decks. The new Omni decks have a worse manabase than older lists, almost as bad as...

Snip I agree that Tasigur sucks and BURG might be good. I've been enjoying BURG recently and it doesn't lose all that much from not playing Goyf. I'm fairly confident that BUG is unplayable without...

3 green sources were enough before, not sure of the motivation behind swapping a Sea for a Trop. Another option besides the 4th Sea is a Creeping Tar Pit main. It's a meta call, certainly, but I've...

Agreed. I've tried Bob before and never been very happy with it. It's just not a relevant beater most of the time. It gets brickwalled too easily in the creature matchups where the life loss actually...

I agree that Hymn is still a perfectly valid plan, but 4 Creeping Tar Pits is insanity. That card is fine against Miracles, although they have more than enough ways to kill it. I've been happy with...

That makes sense, and I definitely understand cutting it given that your expected meta seems to be much different than my take on it. My take on the meta is a bit different - I expect there's going...

I disagree with your points about Sylvan Library. The Hymn / Cruise build is pretty much a midrange control deck, and card advantage and selection is king. It's pretty rare to lose a game where...

I think so. If they see Delver, they'll play around 4 Daze. If they don't, sometimes they assume you're some sort of BUG control and don't play around Daze at all (even midgame). Both cases are good...

Thanks! TONS of UR Delver. That's by far the most standout thing. I didn't scout much, but I'll share my impressions. I didn't see much Miracles or combo - I think the Reanimator player I lost to...

I played Team America at Legacy Champs. Had a good run until round 5, then hit the bad end of variance. I ended up dropping at 5-3 since the tournament started two hours late, the round turnover was...

I'm surprised it's still unexpected. Willey has top 8'd a few times with Stifle. That's a fair analysis of it though.

I definitely agree that Thoughtseize is underpowered for the maindeck. It's...

Congrats on the placing! Did you like the Stifle build? Every time I've tested the deck, it seemed underpowered and clunky. But I've only done a few matches with it post-Khans, maybe that's changed....

You have to pay :u::u: instead of :u:.

More seriously, I don't expect to have UU more than like two thirds of the time around turn 3-4 against a Wasteland deck. Also 1 vs 2 is a big difference in...

Very interesting idea with cutting the Delvers. A local has been playing BUG Delver with Stifle and Hymn fairly successfully. It seems awful since you're stranding cards in hand with Stifle and then...

Will it? I haven't found that to be the case. Have you tested it at all?

Awesome to see I'm not shouting into the wind here! :cool: What's the list you're testing with?
But overall, agreed with every one of your points. A rare occurrence for me... In particular, I agree...

I'm going to go with your gut on this one. Envelop is the card to counter Terminus and Infernal Tutor.

The biggest thing that people are missing with "who will be a better cruise deck" is the...

The cards do different things, and have vastly different costs. Even casting Jace is not something this deck is set up to do (2 Bayous + 4 Wasteland is a good clue), much less protecting him (no...

Treasure Cruise, because I rarely have 2UU, but I very often have 1U and 6 cards in grave. It allows you to both refuel and deploy threats on the same turn.

I tested a 6 game set in the mirror...

Rich Shay is a smart dude, no doubt. I have a lot of respect for his deckbuilding skill in Vintage. However, Jace is not good in this deck, get that garbage out of here. You don't want to cast him...

I played a Virtue's Ruin in board for the Saturday legacy #1 event at GP Portland. I didn't play against D&T (although there was a ton of it), but did board it in against Esperblade with Lingering...

I definitely think you're right there. What about the Goyf vs. Decay play?




Haven't had too many issues with Mom because of Charm, but I've had more of a problem with the 6+ creatures that...

Thanks!



That's it for the board, and his hand is only SoFI.



I keep on losing to Serra Avengers and having issues with Brimaz and Mirran Crusader. 3 mana can be tough, but killing their...

Played TA at SCG Portland to a 27th place finish. Not as good as I was hoping, but I'm 4/4 placing in the top 32 or better, so I guess that's ok. I played the same list as the one I got 4th with at...