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    Re: [Deck] Team America (BUG Delver)

    All four options are reasonable I think, play which one suits the meta you expect to face. Vs an unknown, Leovold is pretty great to mise.
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    Re: [DTB] Team America (BUG Delver)

    I think TS is the worst of all the spells to cast in this position. You can leave up Stifle for a fetch or Wasteland, Ponder for a second land or cast DRS which is by far the best play imo. What are...
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    Re: [Deck] Team America (BUG Delver)

    Great post, wcm8. I think a lot of the groundwork that you mention still holds very true these days. I swear by the 4 Sea, 2 Bayou, 1 Trop manabase whenever Hymn is in the deck.
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    Re: [Deck] Team America (BUG Delver)

    I like the look of these lists! I'm just not big on Tombstalker or Hymn, I don't think it's the direction the '4c style' BUG lists wants to be, but we shall see. Fatal Push comes online tomorrow and...
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    Re: [Deck] Team America (BUG Delver)

    Reid Duke has tried it out a bit too ;)

    http://www.channelfireball.com/articles/winning-with-sultai-in-louisville/
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    Re: [Deck] Team America (BUG Delver)

    RUG is a much better Stifle deck due to speed and efficiency, but it fell out of favour recently due to Stifle and Mongoose being very poor vs Eldrazi. Most BUG players also moved from Stifle to Hymn...
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    Re: [Deck] Team America (BUG Delver)

    Nice results!

    That is just the nature of decks playing things like Hymn to Tourach and Daze, they're super powerful early game but very weak late. You could play things like Jace, the mind...
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    Re: [Deck] Team America (BUG Delver)

    I'd recommend the lists from malimujo online, he wins a lot with it and it's no doubt what Brad Nelson and Michael Majors took inspiration from for GP Louisville.
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    Re: [Deck] Team America (BUG Delver)

    Yep, it's been discussed a fair bit. The deck was made by the guys from The Brainstorm Show podcast, here it is - http://www.thebrainstormshow.com/podcasts/episode-022-miracle-slayer-delver/
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    Re: [Deck] Team America (BUG Delver)

    A Verdant Caracombs will do a fine job in that slot.
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    Re: [Deck] Team America (BUG Delver)

    I think you're bang on the money and agree with all of your points. It can't be stressed enough how important Ponder is to keep Delver decks together. And the Stifle / Hymn anti synergy is very real.
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    Re: [Deck] Team America (BUG Delver)

    I'm not a fan of Sylvan Library these days. It's slow vs other Delver or midrange decks and vs Miracles they will be bringing in W//T for Orb, Needle and Null Rod already, having an Enchantment too...
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    Re: [Deck] Team America (BUG Delver)

    It's good no doubt, I love playing with it too, but TNN seems to be a perfect fit in this deck too. Might give this list a run with 2x soon over the Cliques, will let you guys know if I get the...
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    Re: [Deck] Team America (BUG Delver)

    Cheers for the report, and nicely done! Sounds like TNN was clutch a number of times. How have the Cliques been for everybody? I understand they're largely with Miracles in mind, but we do have...
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    Re: [Deck] Team America (BUG Delver)

    That's not the point. You're not swinging with Delver, you're casting Sinkhole. Or you're not, which leads to the tension between the two. I'm talking about the early turns of a game. If you're in...
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    Re: [Deck] Team America (BUG Delver)

    Thanks for the report!

    I used to play BUG Delver with Stifle as my go to deck before Eldrazi came along then switched to 4c for Bolt and Grudge mostly. I also found the DnT matchup close to...
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    Re: [Deck] Team America (BUG Delver)

    Totally agree, I don't like these cards in the same deck bar something like Pox.

    I'm also not big on Sinkhole and Stifle together as there's too much tension between being proactive and reactive,...
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    Re: [DTB] Team America (BUG Delver)

    I'd be interested in a report, decklist and SB strats too. Always interesting!



    Agreed. There are considerably less T1 plays making Daze so much worse in the deck.
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    Re: [DTB] Team America (BUG Delver)

    I don't think so, this is still a tempo deck utilizing Daze and Wasteland and as such is more often the beatdown deck than not, you need to be applying pressure early. You still have Ponders and...
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    Re: [DTB] Team America (BUG Delver)

    I took Goddiks list (with a few SB changes due to card availability) to my LGS last night and went 4-0 beating Enchantress, Esper Mentor, UW Landstill and MUD (so take the results with a touch of...
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    Re: [DTB] Team America (BUG Delver)

    Fantastic job, I was really impressed by your play on camera. Super tight and you clearly know your matchups!

    I'm going to give your list a spin at my LGS this week and report back here. There...
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    Re: [DTB] Team America (BUG Delver)

    I'm still confused by Jace, VP being played in decks with mostly reactive cards (daze, pierce etc). Don't you at least want something high impact to flashback like Hymn?
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    Re: [DTB] Team America (BUG Delver)

    Where did Jund come from? Not sure I'd bring it in vs them. Miracles, yes.



    btm10 is right, Miracles and Lands especially, but anything that can go bigger than us. I wouldn't play Winter Orb...
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    Re: [DTB] Team America (BUG Delver)

    Please share! I have a number of Lands players at my LGS. I manage to win most times I play them, but it's always incredibly close and a little variance either side could sway it. The deck has been...
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    Re: [DTB] Team America (BUG Delver)

    Winter Orb is fantastic. I started with one in my SB then bumped it up to two, it gives you a great edge vs big mana decks.

    Current SB is

    2 Dread of Night
    1 Pithing Needle
    1 Surgical...
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