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I played against it this weekend and felt the matchup was fine (I won).

I do play the Hymn / Thoughtseize version, which pretty much has all the things in a deck that Stompy decks don't want to...

I do love me some Dimir Charm, but I think in a Delver list, we care so much about keeping our overall CMCs low, Dimir Charm is just a little too expensive for my taste.

Oh I'm not arguing that Dispel is better than Flusterstorm, just that there do exist some relevant situations where it is better.

I prefer Envelop over either, myself.

Not necessarily. Like Spell Pierce, if they have the mana to pay it, Flusterstorm is worse than Dispel.

I've always been a huge fan of Envelop. It's also amazing against most of the combo decks out there as well as the above applications vs Miracles since unlike RUG, we don't tend to abuse Stifle as...

Most good Miracles players won't pop their Tops unless they absolutely have to.

A more common way you can get rid of it is ADing it in response to them cracking a fetch land. They'll get that...

I always brought it in vs combo since with our hand disruption, we stand a good chance of hitting a key piece and then stripping it out of their deck (say you strip all the SnT / Sneak Attack /...

Creeping Tar Pit is also a card some people will play to help with the Miracles matchup. Just make sure you don't run it into Terminus or StP if you can help it.

For me, I actually like TNN quite...

DTT control, I guess would be the Golddigger deck?

Against D&T, if we remove almost all our countermagic, we don't care too much about Aether Vial since we're on the "kill-all-their-guys" plan.
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Yup. Blue Jund is exactly how I like to play it too. Just try and get them to where they're in topdeck mode and let our more consistent deck (go go Brainstorm/Ponder) take it from there.

It's been awhile since I've played the deck and the matchup, but I remembered ultimately not liking Liliana as much since they tend to have multiple crappy little creatures while at the same time you...

Yeah, but it shows how scary Hymn is to them!

I usually board out my Lilianas vs DnT and leave in my Hymns just because it's still so powerful against them (even with the risk of Liege).

I disagree that Stifle is strictly better than Hymn vs DnT. Having no cantrips to smooth their draw, while DnT generates consistency through redundancy, it's still fundamentally just reliant on...

If you're a regular on the SCG circuit, there's also value in keeping relationships good with other common SCG players. You never know when the roles might be reversed, you know?

I love Hymn. It...

Oh hah! That was very nice of you then. :cool:

I agree with just conceding there and trying to win the next one. Our deck has a much easier time winning in that time frame than Miracles does.



Early game is most dangerous, I think when we...

Yes, even the threat of Blood Moon heavily constrains what we can do since we essentially have to always keep mana up to float for AD in case they jam it.

I find the Imperial Painter matchup one...

I didn't watch your match vs Shane, but I can't fault you for dropping Needle early on Top though. I believe in the Miracles card that is the single most dangerous card to us, so I often...

Still a great performance though! Both Shane and Christian are great players (Christian wrecked me in the Swiss).

Vs the D&T / Maverick decks, TNN is also problematic for them as the have very few ways to deal with it.

Vs Maverick, I also particularly like Virtue's Ruin since it deals with KoTR and they're...

If anyone is interested in going back to Tombstalkers, I would recommend that they give Necropolis Fiend a try. Sure, it's 1 Delve more and a 4/5 instead of a 5/5, but if you ever get to untap with...

It's been awhile since I've posted in here, but I just wanted to say how happy it makes me that our beloved Hymns and Lilianas are a thing again!

I actually think UWR would probably like Treasure Cruise the most. It doesn't care about it's graveyard at all on top of having all those cheap removal spells to throw.

If you're going to try and trick someone, this is assuming you're not going to crack your Catacombs until their turn to Brainstorm / Daze in response to something.



Not a fan of it myself for...

I actually like Misty the least.

Verdant lets you pretend to be Jund on T1 (I play 4). Sometimes you can still get people with Verdant -> Underground Sea -> Daze.

Polluted Delta lets you...