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Hehe, I didn't think you were, I just wasn't sure how much Wanderlust had shared and don't like to spill the beans on other people's projects.

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No, but I'll not say more. He's a sourcer and I'll leave it to him if he likes.

Got my butt handed to me by the fox + monoliths into infi combos last night. Good times. Seems pretty strong.

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That seems incorrect. Why? The deck is named exactly Metalworker Ultimate Destruction -- are you using mana rocks in place or locus lands or something?

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I'm not. I'm on DnT, which is one reason I agree, but it doesn't mean it's not solid. I'm for advancing the development of strong legacy decks. Good luck, they are strong in fair metas such as these.

Equally good in that same scenario is naming top against Miracles, then they tap, draw a card and you can chalice if they opt to not replay it. Also, DnT is extremely popular and naming vial makes...

Just fyi, lossett plays 2x B2B and 2x Moat in his board. I have to say that doesn't seem like budget material, and it seems both are highly relevant to this particular matchup imo.

You have 7x Metalworkers in that list.

MUD = Metalworker Ultimate Destruction. That is historically where the name MUD came from. Having said that, I can appreciate builds without him as he is definitely the weak link in the archetype.

Says screw you to Miracles, also.

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URx Delver builds will do their best to, and yes, if they know their matchups, so will Infect.

Chalice on 3 for elves is presumably for Reclamation Sage, but I don't know why because the list...

When paired with Ugin, I don't see how Razormane is bad at all. 3 is fine, 6 is insane.

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What's the Miracles match-up like? The primer doesn't seem to touch on the subject much...

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I like dropping Karn. I've always believed him to be worse than other options, including myr battlesphere. If you play Spine of Ish Sah, there is argument there to swap in Ugin. He's going to be very...

What slots are you trying out?

Wow, now I wanna play MUD...again...Karn sucks, and now even more so.

And don't play it in response to them cracking the fetch, though. Fail to Find is a thing.

Exactly my point.

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I don't think a 4 turn clock is something that should be sneered at, especially when it has the potential to also be a turn one disruption piece. Obviously it's not always turn 1, but again, it's...

I agree with turn 1 trini. It's one of the best turn one plays in the game of magic in any format ever. This and a single wasteland wins the tempo match up so often it's epic. I still disagree that...

I think that on the surface people think that Sphere of Resistance is something comparable to Trinisphere, but as it turns out (in my experience, at least) it's a lot more like Chalice. It is, as...

You said jerk, and I never called you one. I simply agreed with something you said. Let's make sure we both understand that you weren't exactly polite. Or sorry. I'll drop the conversation because I...

The control element is within the sideboard. First piece of advice is to move that to the main and then capitalize on it by increasing the amount played.

It's the list we are now talking about....

You are arguing to not discuss a list because of an exclusion of 4 cards that some otherwise typical mud (all artifact control builds) lists have also excluded, along with the inclusion of about 6...

Ludacris. Wtf defines mud? My meta has a mud list that runs 12post, sol lands and factories alongside Metalworkers in an all artifact list with all the typical disruption, beats and combo reticent of...