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check out this welder deck. Placed 15th recently http://sales.starcitygames.com//deckdatabase/displaydeck.php?DeckID=83951

Thought id post a few well placed lists from recent scg events:
http://sales.starcitygames.com//deckdatabase/displaydeck.php?DeckID=80728 Justin Moss 6th...

Has anoyone actually figured out a competitive list with him in it yet? Or are we just poping him in the older red versions with welder?

My issue with Ugin is its directly competing with sundering titan. do we want to attack there land or their permanents.

UGIN HAS DROPPED!

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+2: Lightning Bolt
-X: Better Pernicious Deed
-10: ... Draw 7 cards... Gain 7 life... And drop 7 permanent ...

Apologies for the double post.

I was thinking today about the next two sets and the prospect of Eldrazi and potentially an Ugin planeswalker card showing up. Ugin in the story uses colourless...

i know we have a high average cmc, but we arent playing edh here. Mockingbird makes an excellent point about double blue, your adding maybe 4 seats and some islands? You cant cast this only off...

speaking of sideboard cards, what is everyone's opinion of trading post in the side for the grindy match ups? I notice greg spanno played id against lossett at the scg invitational.

He actually stated in his t8 profile he'd drop the spine for a sundering titan mb. Chalice is perhaps MUDs best weapon and i feel its to powerful to not mainboard even if your running welders. Sure...

I think running the crucible with diamond fixes the land count issue a bit. The mana base seems fine, its what metalworker lists were running years ago before the post lists turned up.

My...

And its a welder build! Sad that he didn't get out of the first round of t8. Heres his list http://sales.starcitygames.com//deckdatabase/displaydeck.php?DeckID=72081

I randomly saw knarichs final match on twitch. Vs infect it was 1:1 and he seemed to scoop for no reason! I didn't stick around to find out why. Also i was 90 % sure Wayne Polimine was in the shop to.

Fair enough, I've only tried it in the traditional post build and it was so so. What was your thinking of sphere instead of trinisphere? Were there many instances where you locked yourself out? I...

Nice report darkghost! Top 8 is very respectable and im glad you took the elves game in such detail based on recent discussions. (Open to response from nameless also btw) Regarding your proposed...

Hey guys, has anyone else dropped down to 3x trinispheres? I find i draw it enough still but i'm not seeing it in multiples anymore. If i get to my lgs legacy this week ill be testing 4x tanglewire,...

Needs to be concidered but i think steel hellkite is better positoned behind wirmcoil engine than this.

Lucky :) my meta is full of delver so i can confirm cavern does work!

Ive been testing it replacing staff of nin in post version (x2). Its been very promising as 4 mana is better than 6 regarding reliability and gives an extra card basically . Needs more testing...

So I drafted consiracy last night (highly recomend it btw people, such fun) and ended up pulling 2x coercive portals so I'm going to test them instead of staff of nin this wednesday. Ill report back...

Thats a bit to harsh. His second point was very valid regarding the utility of forgemaster, especially post sideboard when your looking that silver bullet card.

@Souleater734: id rather play karn...

Sure you can have 7 mana on t2 but your probably wont. You ar FAR more likely to have 4 mana on t2 then the nut draw. By having it at 4 mana it just makes it more likely that you will drop it a turn...

I know, didnt you play a version with factories at scg a while ago?

Lets be fair, this card might as well just say, "at the beginning of your upkeep draw a card" as the other text is likely to never be relevant. The opponent is not going to let you nuke the board...

I dont see why not. Conspiracy has 65 new cards with 52 of them legal in legacy and vintage. I imagine the 13 non legal ones will be the cards which reference how its drafted.

Edit: on second...

New tech!!

Coercive portal.
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Will of the council - At the beginning of our upkeep, starting with you, each player votes for carnage or homage. If carnage gets more votes, sacrifice...