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To add to these queries, I'd first like to support the point Mono_Thematic made about Sculler; I haven't playtested him much, but my initial impressions after playing games with him seems to concur...

Everything, ranging from winning the game, not dying as often to shitty topdecks, playing Exalted Angel, and more ways to capitalize on blowing up your opponent's cards. Oh, and your cards are not as...

Wrath/Damnation seems good as an uncounterbalanceable answer to Thresh creature swarms...Tombstalker doesn't do enough to stop those. I say, go Damnation. Else, side in Exalted Angels. Those are...

My point of naming Top, actually, was to stop the CB+Top lock, which disables StP (though confessedly, I have to admit that in these builds, CB Top hardly stops anything else (perhaps except...

I was thinking, if we play a Phyrexian Arena build (that is to say, without Bobs), would it be advisable to side out against Thresh Tops for Pithing Needle to name Top? (or should we keep it in...

Sad thing is, Arena still pings you for 1 each turn, and sometimes, when your opponent has beaten you around abit with a Goyf or so, it's hard to survive long enough to kill them before your Arena...

@Valarne: Without any acceleration of any sort, though, your list looks a little slow if you are on the draw...Thoughtseize/Duress become far less powerful when an opponent gets to play a land (they...

I'm eager to know how some of the matches (namely, 2x Thresh, and Eva Green) went...is a report coming up soon please?

Congrats on the finishing though!

I've been recently thinking of running Extirpates in the main (maybe in the side); in many matchups we need to get rid of some cards in the opponent's deck that we just don't want to see. Against...

Just a random thought: for a build without Wasteland, is Mishra's Factory playable, perhaps as a 2-or 3-of? Mongeese get annoying, and Factory can trade with them and can't be countered (and if they...

In a way you could say that, but Confidant has become so weak in this current Legacy Format, that a list without Confidant could actually be posited to be the evolution, perhaps natural evolution, of...

In my experience, even without Confidant, the deck is slow enough to not want to lose 4 life in any case. Besides, Snuff Out contends with Swords to Plowshares, Oblivion Ring, Vindicate, and EE, for...

To clarify, on utility: When I said utility, I meant cards that serve multiple purposes at once, thereby adding to the deck's versatility. Naturally, those cards would have to serve one or more...

Probably because the potential to cast Bob on turn 2 is too important to not have, I guess (or turn 1 with Chrome Mox, for those who run that). Although confessedly Arena does get around Counter-top,...

@pi4meterftw:

Your list has some cards that are hardly seen on the thread, namely Kitchen Finks and Oblivion Ring. While you justify Finks as follows



I must mention that I am never...

I have really not been pleased with Tidehollow Scullers (and the same goes for Mesmeric Fiends): If we take out threats/cards important to the opponent's game plan, it's too simple for them to trade...

That list is nothing special, I wouldn't call it a work of elegance or anything. Seems more to me like standard BWg Deadguy; my only remarks are that it loses to Thresh, as does all Deadguy, and most...

I don't think I've seen many lists of Deadguy Ale (or any, if at all) running Gerrard's Verdict but no Hymns to Tourach. Perhaps you're talking about all those White Weenie/black builds which get...

Another couple of thoughts, but why Gerrard's Verdict over Hymn to Tourach? There doesn't seem to be specific need for the lifegain, since you don't run Bob, and I don't see the difficulty in getting...

@Umezete:

First up, on your manabase: Godless Shrine is unnecessary and only causes you more pain and vulnerability to Blood Moon (not that you are otherwise immune to it, or that it doesn't...

Against Thresh I find that the problem is not generally that you have to answer their creatures (though you do eventually), but more pressingly and urgently, that you cannot play any other spells due...

Yeah I guess both suggestions I made yesterday don't seem to make much sense on hindsight, they're to situational... I can't think of non-situational answers for Thresh, though, somehow (CotV out of...

My biggest problem with the stick an Angel gameplan is that Thresh always seems to have Swords to Plowshares somewhere, else it'd just shuffle its deck with fetches and do a bit of Topping, and...

So -4 Sinkhole +2 Relic +2 EE? I'd personally like more EEs, though...

How about game one, btw? It seems we just lose that game... (Thresh has the amazing ability to play so many cards in its deck...

Bleh I had to dig to page 2 to get this thread. Looks like it's time for a bump to the first page eh?

Anyway what I'm posting about is the Threshold matchup, or rather a question on it. It appears...