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LOL has this deck reached a point where we need a SB strategy for the mirror?

Draggo, have you playtested your list much yet? Thoughtseize is very strong against non-combo decks too. Most fair...

Maybe 1 in the SB? In my testing Loam is worse than Satyr Wayfinder or Sylvan Library.

Loam is slow. This deck wants the card right away, not long-term card advantage, and the body+mill from...

It's great to see the deck picking up attention and getting wins!




I cringed through all the misplays in his MOST matchup, but overall it was fun watching him stomp Delver decks. Hogaak is...

Great results!

There's been some discussion about whether this is better than traditional Depths.

I think the relevant question shouldn't be "how often did it just win with Marit Lage?", but...

I think Force of Vigor makes the red stompy matchup much better. It kills all the lock pieces and can be played around them easily (Trinisphere is the only awkward one, but you can be Blood Moon...

In my testing I found some indirect value:

1) Someone Cabal Therapyed me for Sylvan Scrying. Sorry, not playing that version! Fringe decks can cause misplays.

2) In Plains matchups when Marit...

Thanks for streaming. Yeah, I think this deck is well-positioned in the meta. Any variant of Depths just rolls a lot of these nonwhite decks running no maindeck answers to Marit Lage. A lot of my...

More testing confirms this rolls over most blue decks (except UW control) and performs well against tier 1.5 and worse combo decks. The heavy disruption package + fast clock get it done. I've racked...

Elvish Reclaimer is amazing and this deck uses it optimally for all sorts of value. Crop Rotations 5-infinity (you can transmute any 2 lands into Marit Lage), graveyard hate (Bojuka), protection...

I tested this a bit. It can be crazy explosive.

I found the manabase shaky and got wrecked by multiple Wastelands. Without budget limits some Verdant Catacombs, Bayous, and 1 of each basic seem...

How do your matchups differ from BUG depths? Better vs Delver, worse vs Grixis Control? What else?

Multiple Crop Rotation/Reclaimer into Bojuka Bog, but sure...

It's also hard to cast 4-mana spells or optimize Infernal Tutor when you don't have mana rocks, which is a good argument in favor of...

4 Force of Vigor + 10 discard spells.

TEN.

4 Therapy + 3 Inquisition + 3 Thoughtseize. Therapy flashes back too.

Discard does most of the work. They may play around that by playing out...