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    Re: [DTB] Turbo Depths

    https://discord.gg/t8sj4B

    There is a Depths section in the Lands discord
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    Re: [DTB] Turbo Depths

    If anyone is interested, I finally upgraded my ancient setup enough to handle it and started streaming BUG Depths once a week at twitch.tv/negator77. The last two weeks vods are up at...
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    Re: [DTB] Turbo Depths

    I'm up about 6% over my average win rate with the London mulligan. Its a very small sample size, but I think the rule is good for depths (full disclosure, I dislike it personally for the format). ...
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    Re: [Deck] Turbo Depths

    The card is glacially slow. It takes tapping 4 lands (sacrificing zone) to kill a 1 drop or 2... tapping four lands twice + sac to kill 2 drops..etc. What match-ups does that actually help in? ...
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    Re: [DTB] Turbo Depths

    Miracles is not one of Depths worst mu's imo.. In fact, I think most versions of Depths have been favored over Miracles for a while now. Every version has cards that can make life very difficult...
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    Re: [DTB] Turbo Depths

    As mentioned above, it's completely contextual depending on the contents of both players hands. Going off a set priority order is not a very sound strategy imo. Some general examples:

    -Plow is a...
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    Re: [DTB] Turbo Depths

    Not sure whether they are talking about BUG Depths or the BUG Lands list (aka Baxter BUG) you mention above. If you are talking about Depths, I can send you a link to the current list + a SB guide.
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    Re: [DTB] Turbo Depths

    THIS. Against Miralces and Grixis Control, you have the option of just sitting on the combo (which Depths is generally able to put together before the dreaded turn 4 Jace) and waiting until you are...
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    Re: [DTB] Turbo Depths

    This assumption is wrong imo. I've been doing well with a 4 mox + 28 land list (to support Diamond and the U splash) with 2 needles main and 2 more in the SB for a long time. Just picked up 5-0's...
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    Re: [DTB] Turbo Depths

    Streamed a league with BUG Depths again today.. This time with Ark4n for anyone that is interested.

    https://www.twitch.tv/videos/332459343
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    Re: [DTB] Turbo Depths

    It won three of the four mtgo legacy Challenges this month and split with Miracles in the finals of the 4th(a mu where they are favored). It's finally starting to see heavier play in leagues too.
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    Re: [DTB] Turbo Depths

    Gotcha. You should join the Lands Discord channel if you aren't already there (Depths has its own spot on the Lands Discord). Solnox and I (among others) are working on lists there. It's just a...
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    Re: [DTB] Turbo Depths

    It has 8 discard spells and the usual crop/steppe line for game 1 protection (sometimes Stifle or Bog for Snap/Plow). Post board Extractions to either remove plows, mess with protective brainstorms,...
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    Re: [DTB] Turbo Depths

    Guested on Phil Gallagher's stream tonight. We ran my Bug Depths list. Anyone that is interested can see the matches here: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/326980919
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    Re: [DTB] Turbo Depths

    I believe it does. They usually board in Trackers which is another annoying engine even if you Surgical their Loams. Previously, you either had to ignore it (aka win before they find it and it...
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    Re: [DTB] Turbo Depths

    The card is probably best for Depths as a sideboard card imo. The main deck can stay lean and focus on the kill. I'm testing a 2/2 Decay/Trophy split in the SB. It's great vs the non blue decks,...
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    Re: [DTB] Turbo Depths

    Raven's Crime requires a value engine attached before it is good enough imo. BG is often a 23-24 land deck. There is no realistic way to consistently use this more than once and build toward the...
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    Re: Turbo Depths Discord.

    https://discordapp.com/invite/WsJs2tf
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    Re: [DTB] Turbo Depths

    I appreciate the kind words. My take is that those mu's are just difficult for Depths in general against skilled pilots. Blade is fine, but Miracles and especially DnT can be difficult. The Depths...
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    Re: [DTB] Turbo Depths

    It had been nearly a year since I got to compete in an individual paper tournament (EE7). Most of my play happens online which is great for what it is, but can't begin to replace an IRL tournament...
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    Re: [DTB] Turbo Depths

    Thanks!

    I've been a proponent of Wasteland main over Ghost Quarter for a long time. The situations where you blind name Wasteland with Needle are pretty rare outside of against Delver. If you...
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    Re: [Deck] Turbo Depths

    When delver wins, it usually isn't because of the counters imo. Daze is often easy to play around and depths has truckloads of discard and redundancy to play through the rest. When they win its...
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    Re: [Deck] Dark Depths

    A bunch of players bring in surgical extraction with the idea of answering the first token and exiling the rest of the depths. This plan is often awful since careful planning can usually lead to the...
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    Re: [Deck] Dark Depths

    One small difference actually came up in a match tonight... I won a game vs delver by getting an arbor in play to activate stage (board of stage, arbor, depths, artifact mana). They actually...
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    Re: [Deck] Dark Depths

    FWIW, I played a pretty decent # of matches with Factory a few months back and attacking successfully with Factory as a backup plan happened exactly twice.
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