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Those are brands of bug sprays/killers. So it is like a play on words for NO Bug.

I would recommend looking at ruric thar in the board. It is pretty much unbeatable for storm and burn decks. They have to have the bounce spell in hand.

Interesting list. Seems much more control based. Is that why you do not have Dazes?

Also, I feel like 8 sac sources isn't quite enough. Have you noticed that at all or not?

How often do you...

I've been playing this archetype for the past 4-5 years as a pet project next to my storm deck.

Here's my list:

Creatures
4 Deathrite Shaman
2 Noble Heirarch
2 Dryad Arbor
1 Leovold,...

If you want a bug list let me know. I have a GSZ/Daze version and a shardless version that I have been playing for a while. I think it is more powerful than the rug version (my opinion only...

I don't play much RUG Order now. But I have played almost every version of the Natural Order Archetype at some point. I am currently on Shardless Bug Order.

As far as Natural Order targets, I...

Went 3-1 with this list. Only loss was to eldrazi of course. That matchup just feels terrible.

MD:

4 Brainstorm
4 Ponder
4 Gitaxian Probe

4 Cabal Therapy
2 Duress

Let me know how it fairs for you.

As a side note to the match up. Unearth is insane against Delver decks, especially ones without Deathrite. Strix might be the best card in the matchup. If you...

I have found the delver matchup with my control list in particular is very good. We have early disruption in discard, countermagic, great blockers, and removal. We also have the benefit of a stronger...

Tested some preboard and postboard matches vs U/R delver with my original list. Felt like I couldn't lose, I think I tied one game to a POP that killed both of us. Everything I was doing was just so...

If I wasn't clear, I mean't you can flip it and attack for 7 immediately.

I am on board with you Finn. We may not agree on the details, but we agree on the direction the deck should go in. Just...

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Thank you for your explanation. Laying out your thought process makes your direction much more clear. I did read the whole thread, but I do still disagree with you on the BUG shell vs Esper...

Finn

That looks like a solid list to me. Have you thought about a single intuition? It might be good in your list, especially if you are running that amount of the souls/therapy combo. Although...

This makes no sense. How is having abrupt decayable creatures relevant? Any TITI deck will be soft to abrupt decay. In fact, most creature decks are weak to decay. Also, Strix is just as worthy of a...

My list doesn't currently run clique or venser, just considered it. If they have lands, they have to have flash creatures as well. Then, I have to not have countermagic up. I thought about...

I can definitely see the desire for mystic and equipment. I am just personally not a fan of playing with the card. I don't enjoy it. I do see its merit in this list though. I like Jace as an option....

Went 3-1 last week at FNM with this list. I liked it a lot. Beat Reanimator, Elves, and delver. Lost to Miracles which was miserable.

4 Snapcaster
4 Strix
4 TITI

4 Brainstorm
4 Ponder
4...

Maybe online where it is 2nd to miracles. In paper events there are about 9 more popular decks than eldrazi over the last 2 months according to MTGtop8. Regardless, I didn't realize popularity made a...

If I will see it later, then why not just wait till later to bump it up? Most of the cards in the deck will not drop in price much, at least until they rotate out of standard. Chalice won't drop...

Is this really already a DTB? Seems kind of early to move it up so quickly. I mean it is heavily represented online, but I don't see it in paper much. Maybe I'm wrong, but I'd like to see it around...

I like this list. I run the same thing minus 2 POP and a Chain Lightning and plus 3 Forked Bolt. I am also splashing a Taiga for 2 Grips out of the board.

Here is the list I have been tinkering with. I got some games in tonight and it felt very smooth. It has its pro's and con's vs the Pyromancer build. I would love some feedback.

2 Wooded Foothills...

It's just a 9/9 though. No evasion, no extra abilities, it seems just ok to me.

Here's the list I have been testing out. I have seen some really good things so far, but there are still a few spots that I'm not 100% sold on yet. No Dragons, but this was the only place I could...

I've been working on a list since the Cruise banning, because I feel that BUG has the most raw power out of any shard. I feel like it was meant for control.

Maindeck:
4 Deathrite Shaman
3 TNN
1...