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    Re: [DTB] Team America (Midrange/Control Thread)

    +1 this. TNN helps shore up some of the non-blue matchups like Eldrazi and DnT and can pair well with Jitte against the creature decks. I've been on something similar for a while and am still...
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    Re: [DTB] Team America (Midrange/Control Thread)

    I have the oddest tournament report ever. I spiked a 20-man GPT today where I had to face Thalia five times en route to victory: three DnT in the Swiss, then double-drew into the #1 seed;...
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    Re: [DTB] Team America (Midrange/Control Thread)

    I've been exploring threat suites, too, and tried this one last night at FNM:

    4 Deathrite Shaman
    2 Baleful Strix
    2 Snapcaster Mage
    3 True-Name Nemesis
    2 Leovold, Emissary of Trest
    1...
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    Re: [DTB] Team America (Midrange/Control Thread)

    Thanks for the link. I'd agree that it's an interesting list, and judging from his own words, he's in the process of tuning everything. I'm sure there's a method to the madness and would be curious...
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    Re: [DTB] Team America (Midrange/Control Thread)

    Just played against someone on Cockatrice who was running what he said was Tomas Mar's latest 4C control iteration with two Wastelands, a Lili, at least one Leovold, Hymn, K-Command, a...
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    Re: [DTB] Team America (Midrange/Control Thread)

    Looks like the 4C Control list is all the rage right now. Are people eschewing TNNs and Leos solely because of all the Pyroblasts running around? I understand the merits of playing this against other...
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    Re: [DTB] Team America (Midrange/Control Thread)

    This. I play Island + Swamp not because I think they're gonna help me win against Blood Moon (though they certainly don't hurt); I want to ensure that I have two lands in play so that I can play a...
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    Re: [DTB] Team America (Midrange/Control Thread)

    This is why I haven't yet tried the red splash. I've been beating builds with and without Hierarch, Delver, even Shardless and Landstill. I'm also playing a maindeck Marsh Casualties and a sideboard...
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    Re: [Deck] Team America (Midrange/Control Thread)

    I played against a Hierarch list splashing red today on Cockatrice that maindecked Bolts. I ended up winning 2-1, but my opponent's list seemed sweet. A part of me wanted to try a red splash even for...
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    Re: [DTB] Team America (Midrange/Control Thread)

    Thanks for the thorough writeup, @iostream. I wanted to ask about a few of your specific points:

    - What does your new creature suite look like if you include some number of Strix (which would make...
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    Re: [DTB] Team America (Midrange/Control Thread)

    These lists look good, for sure. What are people's opinions on Jitte in this shell? I've been running it main, and it's definitely won me plenty of games (though there's lots of DnT by me). That...
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    Re: [DTB] Team America (Midrange/Control Thread)

    Won FNM last night (3-0-1), beating Turbo Depths, drawing with Bant Blade (lots of Batterskull/TNN stare downs), and beating DnT twice. Here's what I played:

    4 Deathrite Shaman
    2 Baleful Strix
    1...
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    Re: [DTB] Team America (Midrange/Control Thread)

    At the end of Ben Friedman's article about group constructed, he talks about his disappointment with Delver as an archetype and the decisions prompting his experimentation with BUG Midrange. He...
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    Re: [DTB] Team America (Midrange/Control Thread)

    http://gatherer.wizards.com/Handlers/Image.ashx?multiverseid=369071&type=card&options=rotate90

    This is a strictly better version of Make Obsolete. You get the freeroll of the white side of the...
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    Re: [Deck] Team America (Midrange/Control Thread)

    Thanks for a well-presented list, wcm8. Perhaps I'm wrong and this is too corner-case, but I feel like BR Reanimator is enough of a combo concern to merit some number of Thoughtseize in the 75....
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    Re: [Deck] Team America (Midrange/Control Thread)

    I like all the lists people have posted - looks like this archetype is doing fairly well. I 3-0d FNM last night, then split the fourth round. Here's what I registered:

    4 Deathrite Shaman
    3...
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    Re: [Deck] Team America (Midrange/Control Thread)

    Both of your lists look strong and focused. It seems you've both settled on 20 lands and at least three Wastelands, which makes me wonder if I'm playing one land too many. You're also both playing...
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    Re: [Deck] Team America (Midrange/Control Thread)

    Like most modal spells, it's been fine but not OP or anything. The drain life has come in handy more often than I thought it would. I've shaved a turn off my clock by, say, killing a dude and...
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    Re: [Deck] Team America (Midrange/Control Thread)

    I've been considering a beefier Goyf build, too. My meta is infested with DnT, so I've been going with a build heavier on TNN. For monthlies and bigger events, though, I think Goyf's clock, even in...
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    Re: [Deck] Team America (Midrange/Control Thread)

    Glad you like it, femuca!



    I'm certainly open to that change. I tend to like the versatility of Brutality in game 1, as it can be removal or combo hate. But if you want to focus the disruption...
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    Re: [Deck] Team America (Midrange/Control Thread)

    4-0d FNM last night - after a previous 3-0-1, 3-1, and 2-1 - with this list:

    4 Deathrite Shaman
    3 Baleful Strix
    2 Snapcaster Mage
    3 True-Name Nemesis
    2 Leovold, Emissary of Trest
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    Re: [Deck] Team America (Midrange/Control Thread)

    That's a lot of three-drops alongside Daze, and without the acceleration from Noble Hierarch, I wonder if Daze is gonna set you back too far too often. You don't have an early beater like Tarmogoyf...
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    Re: [Deck] Team America (Midrange/Control Thread)

    Went 3-0-1 at FNM last night with the following (suboptimal) first attempt at a BUG Control list:

    4 Deathrite Shaman
    3 Baleful Strix
    2 Snapcaster Mage
    3 True-Name Nemesis
    2 Leovold, Emissary...
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    Re: [Deck] Team America (Midrange/Control Thread)

    After reading about people's success with Hierarch in BUG decks in this thread, I took this brew to a 6-rounder yesterday and finished 3-3. Two of my losses were very close (and one felt hopeless),...
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    Re: [Deck] Team America (Midrange/Control Thread)

    @H, thanks for posting the Már list. I tried something similar last night.

    3 Underground Sea
    2 Volcanic Island
    2 Tropical Island
    1 Swamp
    4 Misty Rainforest
    4 Polluted Delta
    1 Flooded Strand...
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