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Dudes (13)
4 Veteran Explorer
2 Tireless Tracker
1 Dryad Arbor
1 Eternal Witness
1 Ranumap Excavator
1 Scavenging Ooze
1 Reclamation Sage
1 Titania, Protector of Argoth
1 Thragtusk

1 Garruk, Primal Hunter
3 Liliana of the Veil
1 Vraska, Relic Seeker


1 Dryad Arbor
1 Eternal Witness
2 Grave Titan
1 Leovold, Emissary of Trest
1 Scavenging Ooze

First Draft that I am going to play tomorrow in a double up:

Dudes(18)
4 Veteran Explorer
4 Dark Confidant
4 Tireless Tracker
2 Eternal Witness
2 Scavenging Ooze
2 Reclamation Sage

Dark Confidant and Tireless Tracker are the engines to take advantage of LotV, but I also think she is more than a 1 of utility card. The mana base is super doable with 4 forests 3 swamps, 4 bayou...

You also get access to double black spells much earlier in the game. I have been strongly considering Hymns and Lilliana as a way to fight combo decks while our engines come alive.

You also get...

So Hymn for seize or brutality?

Hymn is just really powerful and gets free wins itself. I also love having a real weapon against combo on turn 2.

As the legacy challenges and new lists come...

I am at the point where I feel like BG has enough tools to compete with the format. The stable manabase + explorers are the best ramp, GSZ and Crop Rotation are the best tutors and Tireless Tracker...

Safety: Do you have a straight GB list for the new meta? I'm looking at something low to the ground with crop rotation into bog/karakas main.

On turn 5 of the first game, couldn't he have just made a Progenitus to block the thought knot seer? Fetch for dryad arbor, play natural order? Then he could have decayed Jitte and played out his...

Love this.

I think you need the dryad arbor to search for to start the Leap chain in worst case scenarios. 1

I was searching the internet and just discovered Altar of Bone, has there ever been a GW Nic Fit Build that could turn 2 Altar away a Veteran Explorer into a Gaddock Teeg(against combo obvi)?
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Do you guys have any thoughts to Nic Fit variations resembling the old Survival of the Fittest lists that were all toolbox? The problem with the old Survival lists is that they were garbage without...

I will say as someone who always reads this thread and has played against a lot of nic fit: builds with Deed are much better than builds without.

Being able to ramp everyone and then clear...

At what point, if you add dark confidants and lower your curve, aren't you ruining the entire reason veteran explorer is in the deck?

My opinion has always bee veteran explorer/cabal therapy into...