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You are doing all this math and typing but show me the results that back up your numbers.

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Have you ever cast the card Price of Progress ? Try that.

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It's a fact and it's proven with results. You are free to disregard actual results and facts in order to live in your fantasy world.

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Why do you need a formula to figure out if a card is dumpster? Play the deck and you will see you never want Abbot.


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1 is great, 2 is pushing it. I'd never play more then 2.


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I'll write a complete response when I get off work but your reasoning for not using fetches and guides is very poor and shows you have no understanding of the deck or card choices we have been using...

The local burn expert has been playing my list and loving it. I'm close to putting two tops and testing that. I'll get back with you . If I play two tops I may want to play Swiftspear in the deck....

Played burn again for the first time in a month. My list from a few pages back -1 Mountain +1 Taiga main deck and SB was 3 Firecraft, 3 Cage, 3 Pyroblast, 3 Bridge, 3 Relvery.

Went 3-1 basically...

Shusher is on the same level for me as Swiftspear. They don't belong in the deck and don't do enough.


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You are correct.


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I'm so confused why you all are set on Swiftspear, the card is terrible. I still think my list from my Top 16 PIQ in Atlanta is correct. Looks like Speedbump is on the same page.


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Swift spear is dumpster, it was never on the drawing board at any time for burn in my lists.


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I'd never play burn without fetches. You need them for seering blaze. Also, I'm still a fan of more then 1 Ring.


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Idk, I liked it , I went 5-2 at that PiQ and then 3-1 at our last local only losing to the rando D&T guy with Firewalker in the board and drew it game 2/3z.


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I like top a lot.



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I literally just cast bolts in the correct order then priced my opponent. There was one game where my decisions were super important, and I won because my opponent didnt know what my cards did. I...

I top 16'd the PIQ today. Cast many bolts. Here is my list.

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4 Goblin Guide
2 Grim Lavamancer
4...