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Absolutely ! Historically, Most lists discussed here were drs free. It is the thread that was used for grixis Control during treasure Cruise and Dig Through time eras.
I am aware that drs lists are...

If you need another thread, you can create a grixis midrange one.This one ist drs free, for the greater good.

Hi guys,

I'm surprised noone mentionned this : http://mtgkmc.blog.fc2.com/blog-entry-425.html
8th place, featuring 4 Bedlam Reveler. I like the Daretti + Dack/Strix Interaction. Interesting list.

I have tested the deck since the banning of dig through time, obviously, especially since GP Seattle. I also tested Painful Truths as a 1, 2 or 3 of in different Grixis lists (with daze, even with...

Nice to see some results from the deck.

My advice would be to completely cut the overrated painful truths and try a 1-of skeletal scrying instead. Also, I'm not a fan of Spell Pierce / Izzet Charm...

I'd like to congratulate you for both your results and your very well written article.

Still, I'm not convinced. Painful truths is quite bad against Tempo decks, that's why you have 1 murderous...

It was a pleasure.

I just read

So bolt doesn't target Jace but the player.


@The Atog's Lord
Very well thought list. I especially like the 3 surgical extration and 2 blood moon in your sb, + the chalice...

About Snapcaster : I think that the main argument against snapcaster is its manacost. Given the number of cantrips of the deck, we can't keep 4 lands untapped in order to snap cspell in Ascension...

Rip is a problem when it comes early. Rip does nothing once ascension is active and can be considered as pure CD if we already resolved 1 dig. Ascension versions play only 5 grave dependant cards...

Hello Nocley,

.Concerning Jace vs Tnn, it just happens that Jace solves more problems than tnn does (Consider Wurmcoil, Goyf, Knight, Goose (Tnn>J), ...) and also offers a reliable way to kill...

Cabal + Artifact hate already deal with sfm. Or maybe you're afraid of a 1/2 ? I won't keep bolt if they don't play delver.

Stoneblade is one of the easiest MU for this deck, especially if you run Dack Main. With your list, I would suggest something like :

-1 Echoing truth -1 Cut -3 Bolt -2 Force
+2 Pyroblast +1 Marsh...

I agree completely. A list with 4 ponder 3+ preordain, obviously, looses tempo early to cast cantrips. Maindeck Snare is actually a very good one off. Maindeck Etruth is also not bad in these MUs....

Please explain yourself. Apart from the blood moon in the Rug Mu, which can be understandable otp since he plays so many removals for goyf, I find it quite good. He also kept Forces and didn't bring...

If you want names, the first who came with the 4 Preordain build is Medvedev (and maybe the whole Dig Through Time build, at the same time as others - but Eli "declared" that dig would replace TC...

Sorry for the harsh tone, wasn't intended :).

About Dack, it s a planeswalker that does solve a problem : the resolved jitte (not much else for the md). But it depends how you build your deck. If...

Sorry, we re not there to talk about random lists but to discuss theoretical points or analyse lists that proved to be worth it.
You have to build your own list from the discussion.

On this...

Deathrite Shaman is a midrange tool that makes our deck active earlier (T2-4) but doesn t provide control over the game (except from the gy part, which is often not relevant). It s also a poor top...

Congratulations to you all !

Here is my latest list :

1 [UNH] Mountain
2 [KTK] Bloodstained Mire
2 [UNH] Island
3 [KTK] Polluted Delta
3 [R]...

If you expect a junk meta, then I agree that Terminate>Pyroblast but I prefer to come prepared vs Miracles in a big event (also vs Delver and blue in general). For Tasigur and Tombstalker, we have...

Congratulations for your results.

I think that your point of view on Terminate is a little biased by your results (and pairings) and by the great feelings you had got in destroying siege rhino ^^....

That's very interesting. However I doubt it.

Dig through time is at its best in a reactive control deck. You generally want to dig in response to a spell (and find the answer) or EOT to resolve a...

One of the best shell to abuse cruise was the Grixis shell. Its strength relied on Cabal therapy which ensured to resolve our key spells. This proactive way of thinking is maybe not suited to the new...

Hi grimskies,

I edited my post to add your suggestions :). I have difficulties to classify the Loam Lock ; it can be used on a board state where they are either ahead on or if we are in a...