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I love very much negator!!! I'm trying to re-build a "classic" suicide list to run it!!! But with a lot of burns spell around i think i will put it in SB for combo/control/no red MU...

Something...

I like your list a lot @Ralf...have you tried a monoblack version of this deck before adding red stuff for SB?

I think that with only14 black lands you've too many BB and BBB...wasteland on your urborg should be fatal for you..

No.
Don't side out Iok/seize is ok...hymn is too dangerous...in my opinion

An other way to fight dredge...LotV+ palgue(horror)+tabernacle, and than any lockout effect like void...
G1 is impossible!

Thanks for your advices..
I've talking about hymns vs t seize a lot with Shawn and other poxers...yes, it seems dependant on your preference (and sure i love my hymns too) but with a smothed mana...

That's right!
I think that "the rack" is a funny list and it can work well in "good hands" but it's the "budget pox"...

I've never lose a game against D&T 2 tabernacles MD...3 abyss + 3 plagues...

If you're playing Pox "properly" your opponent is hellbent because you WANT them to be. Hard to play when you have no hand you see. This is why Rack builds can still work in a less aggro...

That's true! If fact my old list have 3 needle 2 chains 2 bombs in side...
My tournament record against miracle isn't disastrous...something like 3-2-1(w-l-d)...but my win are cause of my deck and...

Against miracle all i want is an "online cursed scroll", factories are ok but are vulnerable to StP and terminus...post board chains of mephistopheles and pithing needle to stop jace/SdT.
However...

In a prison-style pox i think that permanents are better than 1 "shot solutions"...topdeck toxic deluge/damnation in empy board can't prevent every opponent's topdeck... nether void, the abyss, nosb,...

thank you, I had work commitments and family so the time for magic was little, I will try to be present from now on... ;-)
I wrote my tournament report in mtg salvation last year, i hope i can...

Hi...i use to play 2 cc4 in g1...post board sometimes 3..(actually I play 2 voids MD + 1 off SB and 3 abyss in my SB)...25/26 lands and 4 rituals!!! I can't play pox without rituals...only against...

Vs burn decks I've 2 nether voids MD and 1 in my SB, sometimes 1 zuran orb..but is a terrible MU for pox..we known...

it isn't suicide?!....ok ok...:eek:

that is true, no one play this deck...but the metagame is made by the choicse of players...for example if in a 50players tournament there are 15maverik...min 1 go to top 8...put 15suicide in the same...

in fact i was an eva green player with good results...but i've sell goyfs bayous and all green card for splash...i'm trying to build a deck monocolor but replace goyf for my suicide gameplay is very...

yeah that's right...I take a lot of damages with this (old but i think beautiful :tongue:) build...i've tryed obliterators over negators but often i've only 3 lands on the field and watch my fatty in...

-4negator +4gatekeeper maindeck
-2lilly and reanimate +1snuff out +3piting needle? (jace sensei vial equip)
i love hippy but he's not too slow now?
i cut hippy for bloodghast for any recursion...

what do you think about my list?

4dark ritual
4thoughtseize
4hymn to tourach
4sinkhole
4bloodghast
4nantuko shade
4phyrexian negator
4tombstalker