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    Re: [DTB] Turbo Depths

    Not really. I have played a version with 3, but you really need the recurrent mana source to justify bob and a grindier build in general. Petal is very good, but it has to be used to create a lot...
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    Re: [DTB] Turbo Depths

    There are two main versions right now. BUG and BG. BUG has maindeck brainstorm and stifle with fluster in the board and is very well suited to miracles and combo. BG is much more grindy and is...
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    Re: [DTB] Turbo Depths

    There is incompetence...but it isn't coming from you.
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    Re: [DTB] Turbo Depths

    They had issues last year too. Like the VIP playmats didn’t get shipped to the event at all.

    As you said, with a touch of effort it could have been taken care of.


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    Re: [DTB] Turbo Depths

    Random 30 minute pause because the pairings system broke. No cloth tops on the tables, all bare wood. I always do VIP with my buddy, but they lost the VIP lanyards, put the area outside the bag...
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    Re: [DTB] Turbo Depths

    They were both Long Depths. Basically what Solnox has been playing.

    It is what I played as well. But I just got varianced to shit this weekend.

    R1: Burn - easy 2-0

    R2: Elves - Game one I...
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    Re: [DTB] Turbo Depths

    Would love to join. I haven’t used discord much at all, so I would need a bit of help finding my way there.


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    Re: [DTB] Turbo Depths

    After seeing your stream I am debating your list for EW. Also considering Solnox's here: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/1428969#online

    I think my list may have gone too far off into grindy...
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    Re: [DTB] Turbo Depths

    @Negator

    How do you feel the BUG match up is against Miracles is? I enjoyed the stream, but notice that there is no main deck protection for merit with safe keeper or NoTW. It feels like any...
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    Re: [DTB] Turbo Depths

    I have been testing out a grindy list with Bob recently. Currently I have about a 62% win rate with the deck, which is decent. However, I just finished up a league with it, and got crushed, 1-4.
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    Re: [DTB] Turbo Depths

    Also, the lands match up is all about speed. They will put grind you. So if you can hit the ground running you will be favored. They can always find an answer, but in the last few times playing them...
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    Re: [DTB] Turbo Depths

    The big debate over AT is the comparison to Decay. Decay hits the vast majority of targets that hurt this deck and is uncounterable, and until just recently wasn’t considered a main deck card. Trophy...
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    Re: [DTB] Turbo Depths

    Thanks, the list is kind of a hybrid between yours and David Long's. The 3 basics is a hedge towards trophy, but that might be not needed. I might drop to 1x safe keeper for steppe and maybe -1...
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    Re: [DTB] Turbo Depths

    This is what I am testing atm. I haven't been as thorough as I might want, work and all. But it has been able to out grind some grindy decks and out pace burn. Pretty pleased with it. I have...
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    [DTB] Turbo Depths

    Sry....double post
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    Re: [DTB] Turbo Depths

    Small update to the post above:

    Beat UB shadow 2-1 (both wins post board), 4C Loam 2-0, lost to BR Reanimator 2-0 and SnS 1-2. Blood moon is still a big problem. I have moved 2 AT and 1 AD to...
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    Re: [DTB] Turbo Depths

    I decided to give this deck a try and it is very interesting. Much faster than I thought it would be and even successfully won a game off of Bob beats while threatening a combo. I haven't played...
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    Re: [DTB] Turbo Depths

    I am trying to come up with a backup plan for the sideboard. I am nervous about Ego being played in delver, and Grixis control. Also elves just being able to slow us down with trophy to the point...
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    Re: [DTB] Turbo Depths

    That is an interesting deck, but it seems very much you have switched out Red for black. Which basically means you don't have gamble, but bob instead. And your secondary win condition of a lock and...
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    Re: [DTB] Turbo Depths

    More don't underestimate the value. Double black is important for Hexmage, which is where petal is better. But when cutting fast mana for sideboarding, I take petal first generally.
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    Re: [DTB] Turbo Depths

    ESG is hidden mana. Hidden mana makes people do miscalculations, like fire off dazes at bad times, or forget that you can make Merit a turn or two early. She is also a beater in a pinch. Honestly,...
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    Re: [DTB] Turbo Depths

    3 mana is a bit much, but 1UB is much better than 1BB. Also it can name any card which makes much more versatile. I don't think this will be a 4x in side board, but this card basically is an auto...
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    Re: [DTB] Turbo Depths

    https://cdn1.mtggoldfish.com/images/gf/Unmoored%2BEgo%2B%255BGRN%255D.jpg

    This card is not good for us or basically all of combo in legacy. In Shadow, Grixis control, or delver it seems like bad...
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    Re: [DTB] Turbo Depths

    I wouldn't overlook abrupt in the board. Being uncounterable is worth something against Grixis control, Shadow and Delver decks. I also think 4x Ass Trophies might be too much. I might consider...
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    Re: [DTB] Turbo Depths

    We are not a value deck like Lands or Nic Fit though. This is a fast combo deck aimed at ending games ASAP or when an opponent makes a mistake. The Last hope makes a lot more sense.
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