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I have a new free article up on EternalCentral highlighting some of the interesting results from Champs.

Monored Workshops, Hangarbacks in unexpected places and more!

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http://www.eternalcentral.com/resource-advantage-in-magic-part2-tempo/

This is a free Theory article. I examine the concepts of card advantage and tempo, attempting to reconcile the dominant...

I think this is the current most efficient Doomsday combo:

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Ideas Unbound
Lion's Eye Diamond
Street Wraith
Call to the Netherworld
Laboratory Maniac
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http://www.eternalcentral.com/resource-advantage-in-magic-part-1-one-shot-resources/

This is a free Theory article. I argue that the pattern of resource usage is an under-appreciated aspect of...

Vengevines might be workable if you had a lot of free creatures

LED plus Acorn Harvest or Lingering Souls

LED plus Gravecrawler and/or Dregscape Zombie

Salvage Titan plus Sword of the Meek...

Choosing between the different shuffle creatures is definitely all about maximizing corner cases.

Serra Avatar can potentially make an Emrakul chump outright but fails to do so if you have less...

Is Manaless Dredge just lumped in with LED Dredge in these lists?

The lists are quite a bit different, and should have wildly different costs.

Manaless draw options: Sky Hussar tapping Narcomoebas, Call to the Netherworld targeting Street Wraith, Edge of Autumn (sacrificing Dakmor Salvage)

Already used: Street Wraith, Gitaxian Probe,...

LED is playable, especially as a sideboard option vs combo.

Hollywood had a number of early dredge builds featuring an LED sideboard package.



The parenthetical seems sort of sarcastic......

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't LED much much better than Unmask for a T1 / T2 win?

It's 1 card instead of 2, can discard multiples (so your odds of having multiple dredgers and such are a...

Food for thought: Moldervine Cloak can't be exiled by Deathrite Shaman

HUGE downside: Dredge 2 instead of 3 (I assumed 3 because it's a 3CMC card that gives +3/+3, but apparently it was not to be)

I counted decks, not cards.

I gave people a full year to adopt Rest in Peace.

Relic of Progenitus is definitely a card. The main-deck may be able to play through it, but it takes a lot of gas to do so, and can buy enough time for the opponent to win with aggro or find a better...

I realize Surgical is more of a speed-bump than proper hate, but it does have some uses. Nihil Spellbomb I do think is actually hate. It's a Tormod's Crypt that can still be played and activated on...

It sounds like that's how igri_is_a_bk was using Unmask.

My testing with Whirlpool Rider shows it being quite good most of the time, but it does prevent you from being able to Phantasmagorian...

Emphasis added. I didn't put anything in your mouth. Also, it's slimy to claim I'm putting words in your mouth immediately after repeating the claim which 'I put in your mouth' as something that...

Did you not read your own comment? You literally said you didn't want to believe all the Manaless finishes show that a particular build is better because it was against 'unskilled' players who were...

I have no respect for this attitude.

The past successful results of a deck don't indicate that you should play that deck, or that you should play the same 60 or 75 cards.

They do indicate that...

Has Leyline actually been doing good work when you don't have additional hate/counters in hand? That situation to me seems like the most important advantage of Mindbreak Trap. I would usually expect...

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I'm talking about the Flayer of the Hatebound slot. Flayer is vulnerable to much of the same removal (not all, mind you) and Whirlpool Rider should dredge ballpark 35 cards, easily enough to...

@Hollywood

Just wanted to say hi, I haven't been back to this thread since the early days and I'm a big fan of the Force builds. It's great to see you've kept with it and found some success.
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On the whole Feldman/Fearless Dredge thing: read this http://www.starcitygames.com/magic/legacy/17238_Deep_Analysis_Tuning_Legacy_Dredge.html very carefully. The link goes to Feldman's tournament...

In response to Necrologia paying 19 life, Lightning Bolt (or Fireblast). You have to be more conservative with the Necrologias as a result.

This deck has a lot of spells that really want to be...

Where "pretty detrimental" = "my opponent gets 1 extra card".