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  1. Thread: [Primer] Elves!

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    Re: [Primer] Elves!

    I wouldn't say so, Decay is a pretty good Magic card.
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    Re: [Primer] Elves!

    You make a classic style IM account like, say, Skype and use it to log in to miniature IRC servers that have group chat support.
  3. Thread: [Primer] Elves!

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    Re: [Primer] Elves!

    That and a lot of the boardwipe is still Terminus...
  4. Thread: [Primer] Elves!

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    Re: [Primer] Elves!

    My first thought on seeing it was "Julian got his Delver-Killer Elf."
  5. Thread: [Primer] Elves!

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    Re: [Primer] Elves!

    What's your list?

    Maybe Imperious Perfect as a grindy twiddle card?
  6. Thread: [Primer] Elves!

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    Re: [Primer] Elves!

    If the meta has a low Cthulhu and Chalice count, Chaos Elves should be good. They're built to grind against fair blue stuff and improve the Miracles MU.
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    Re: [Primer] Elves!

    I'd like to make one note on Pendelhaven Elder vs. Priest of Titania.

    Priest, as has already been pointed out, is undeniably a much stronger card.

    Problem is, it makes mana. Making mana is not...
  8. Thread: [Primer] Elves!

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    Re: [Primer] Elves!

    I think they would - our traditional hate and angle-shooting comes in the form of Library, Null Rod, Needle, Choke, Jitte, Bitterblossom... You can bet those Wear & Tears are coming in. The only...
  9. Thread: [Primer] Elves!

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    Re: [Primer] Elves!

    I like Genesis Chamber a lot. Makes empty bounces do something and isn't as huge of a risk to play as NO.

    One thing that concerns me, though, is how it's still a replacement in a spell slot: The...
  10. Thread: [Primer] Elves!

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    Re: [Primer] Elves!

    It's in the sideboard, rightmost card. Gets cut off on smaller screens by the forum software.
  11. Thread: [Primer] Elves!

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    Re: [Primer] Elves!

    That is one sexy SB.
  12. Thread: [Primer] Elves!

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    Re: [Primer] Elves!

    He's generally a tool for slow, grindy matchups that go long and where you can drown the opponent in card advantage. Primarily, Miracles has a hard time answering him and doesn't like hard-to-answer...
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    Re: [Primer] Elves!

    More Caverns and Decays are far better that Mistcutter. They solve one aspect of their three-part control scheme and help keep Mentor and Top in check.
  14. Thread: [Primer] Elves!

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    Re: [Primer] Elves!

    Yeah, the big problem with any ramp deck is having a mana sink, and Elves is a ramp deck (as a combo deck, comparing to ANT we play even more mana instead of discard and that's in NO builds). Most...
  15. Thread: [Primer] Elves!

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    Re: [Primer] Elves!

    How was your experience with Garruk? I'd be inclined to run Relentless or maybe a 2-1 split between Relentless and the 5 mana Beast generator.

    Agent vs. GSZ seems weird, how did it work out for...
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    Re: [Primer] Elves!

    I didn't mean that you advocated for it, but that you used a strawman-y "might as well include this this this this this and this in the board if you like Void Snare" to paint the other person's...
  17. Thread: [Primer] Elves!

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    Re: [Primer] Elves!

    You don't necessarily really even need to resolve Opposition against Sneak&Show: you can just Show it in off their S&T. At that point they have to play for hardcast Sneak Attack or Show in...
  18. Thread: [Primer] Elves!

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    Re: [Primer] Elves!

    It's much closer to a deck like Shardless or Food Chain than it is to Elves. The deck contains what, 5 strikingly Elves cards? The rest is cantrips with a body and a basic disruption package. There's...
  19. Thread: [Primer] Elves!

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    Re: [Primer] Elves!

    Your options would be discard=>NO=>Prog or grindstation mode and boarding in Ooze and Decay.
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    Re: [Primer] Elves!

    As classic and clean a build as it gets. But 1 Cavern, 3 Decays in a Miracles-y/Chalice-y meta?
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    Re: [Primer] Elves!

    If I remember people's reports correctly, Chaos Elves has a better Lands matchup than the Order Elves.
  22. Thread: [Primer] Elves!

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    Re: [Primer] Elves!

    The big thing about Teeg is that he flat out ends Game 1 against ANT. That's the biggest hurdle - postboard we have beaters and discard and maybe a prison piece or two which you can play with: Teeg...
  23. Thread: [Primer] Elves!

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    Re: [Primer] Elves!

    That last sentence is pretty much the truth, in the long term barring WotC starting to print more useful creatures/elves in eg. BG. As for your assessment: Elves is strong, competitive in a variety...
  24. Thread: [Primer] Elves!

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    Re: [Primer] Elves!

    I have to agree with Lemnear here: Elves is good for now, has been good for a while, and some more meta-adjustment flexibility was uncovered recently in the NO-free builds, but overall the deck is...
  25. Thread: [Primer] Elves!

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    Re: [Primer] Elves!

    It probably is your play. Elves is a deck that can do a lot of things well, but not quite the best. The nature of the deck is that it's a proactive deck: You build your own resources to the point and...
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