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My list it's pretty closer to yours, this is what I'm running atm
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Im curious about the low count on surgicals, don't you think we need more answers to BR...

Honestly, jitte is not that good against miracles

I am currently playing Shaman of the Pack and I think the card is a core component of any grindy game against miracle, they often let us beat them even to 1 hp, so having direct instant damage really...

The variables are honestly too many to just give an answer, you should try to be adaptive and not to stick to bread and butter plays.

Generally you want to have some kind of turn 1 play....

Get a cradle/heritage up asap to counter tabernacle, if you have a quick hand is unreasonable for them to keep up with it, playing shaman of the pack/progenitus also helps immensly.
Most of the...

I would rather board out simbios than visionaries, surely simbio is the star during glimpses but I find myself grinding in those mu most of the times and a free card helps quite a lot, I find simbio...

I can explain very well how the MU works, and as a pretty good miracles player (Top8 some 250> events with it) I know pretty well why elves has basicly no chance to win whatsoever against a decent...

Hey, I player this list at the 4season (180 players) yesterday

4 Gaea's Cradle
4 Natural Order
4 Glimpse of Nature
4 Green Sun's Zenith
4 Wirewood Symbiote
3 Heritage Druid
4 Nettle Sentinel...

"Locket of Myths"
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Artifact
At the beginning of your upkeep, Scry 1.

Whenever you cast a creature spell, you may pay G. If you do, draw a card.

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What I do against miracle is to board out both Orders and Glimpses, Order is almost never good and glimpse is likely just not gonna work.
I don't board in any discard spell, the game will go into...

Agree, my concern is if those cards are good enough, playing a third color for a single teeg is not that appealing and switching 3/4 orders +1 craterhoof with 4/5 zenith targets is bad any time you...

No, of course is anecdotal evidence right there, but that was an instance where having burst could have helped him.
I do think that Order is not that bad in G1 against miracles, in most games trying...

He lost both games getting Terminus-ed into a bomb, I haven't saw a single moment where the game was by far in the hands of the Elves player, the only chance he had was the craterhoof attack that got...

The game against Miracles tells me that no matter what version we play, we cant really beat that deck if played correctly.

Do you actually think that we can beat Miracles by grinding it?
In my...