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  1. Thread: [Primer] Elves!

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    Re: [Primer] Elves!

    Idem here, I much prefer forums than discord talks. I felt disappointed that this thread almost died.
  2. Thread: [Primer] Elves!

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    Re: [DTB] Elves!

    Against rea I trust you that llotv is much better.
    Against storm, however, as about half of the cards we see are not from our openning hand, I tend to disagree.

    So if your meta is infested by...
  3. Thread: [Primer] Elves!

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    Re: [DTB] Elves!

    In a deck that draws as much as elves and that is playing both DRS, thoughtseize and cabal therapy, that is a bold statement.
    Care to elaborate? Because outside of rea and lands, I do think I...
  4. Thread: [Primer] Elves!

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    Re: [Primer] Elves!

    Nissa is actually very good against eldrazi (which is a good MU), while you should not have boarded ooze in.

    Otherwise the best card to beat easily both lands and eldrazi is blood moon. Packmaster...
  5. Thread: [Primer] Elves!

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    Re: [Primer] Elves!

    Elderscale wurm is really bad in the mirror.
    For it to work you need your opponent to not have glimpse neither drs, and to be able to NO before them.

    I would strongly advise against bringing this...
  6. Thread: [Primer] Elves!

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    Re: [Primer] Elves!

    It's a pretty bad MU for sure. There is three solutions if you absolutely need to address it for your local meta:
    - elderscale wurm in sb
    - ezuri's archer in sb
    - 2 crop & one waste md, bokuja and...
  7. Thread: [Primer] Elves!

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    Re: [Primer] Elves!

    The card is an awfull topdeck, and is irrelevant against the rest of the field.
    Vs delver, I would much prefer carpet of flowers if you want a card for G that helps vs removal heavy hands.
    But...
  8. Thread: [Primer] Elves!

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    Re: [Primer] Elves!

    Would you play it turn 1 over gsz/drs/nettle?
    If no, then you don't profit from the most destructive removals. If yes, you slow yourself down quite a bit.
    Outside of delver.deck, there is not so...
  9. Thread: [Primer] Elves!

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    Re: [Primer] Elves!

    Versus infect I would definitely keep the gsz.
    Cut 3 NO, 1 hoof, 2 visio, 2 symbiote, 1 sage, 1 ooze.
  10. Thread: [Primer] Elves!

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    Re: [Primer] Elves!

    They will. Elves often runs pithing needle, so they will bring in some copies of k-grip.
    If you lurk a bit in the lands topic, you'll see that they almost systematically bring in a few copies.
    ...
  11. Thread: [Primer] Elves!

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    Re: [Primer] Elves!

    I do the exact contrary and opt for the grind, with ooze, leovold, packmaster and your symbiote draws.
    Shardless is a very good MU, with your drs being better than theirs, and them being slow and...
  12. Thread: [Primer] Elves!

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    Re: [Primer] Elves!

    Congratulations for another great performance and a much appreciated report.

    Keep winning and writting!
  13. Thread: [Primer] Elves!

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    Re: [Primer] Elves!

    If you play 2x crop rotation MD you may want to make use of them: karakas, bokuja bog, wasteland.
    Great cards against lands, sneak & show and reanimator, not exactly your best friends.
  14. Thread: [Primer] Elves!

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    Re: [Primer] Elves!

    Duress or inquisition are way worse against show and tell decks, so you really prefer seize and cabal.
    Cabal is a bit better against combo, while thoughtseize is an ok card vs miracle, which is why...
  15. Thread: [Primer] Elves!

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    Re: [Primer] Elves!

    Because usually you are not looking for cards that are good when you have won the game.
    It does not mean the card is bad, it's just that the justification you gave is terrible.

    My personal take...
  16. Thread: [Primer] Elves!

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    Re: [Primer] Elves!

    I second this. I also continued to run WRP and I am veey satisfied with it.
    Its role have never been to stay ten turns on the battlefield because it is unremovable.
  17. Thread: [Primer] Elves!

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    Re: [Primer] Elves!

    If they still have 4 decay post SB, their SB is probably so miserable that it's fine ;)
    But choke is not a game-ender against any deck. It is an ok card against a wide range of decks.
  18. Thread: [Primer] Elves!

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    Re: [Primer] Elves!

    I cannot speak for all, but personnally I cutted it because I grew bored to be 2 for 1'ed by wear tear. But that does not hold for the people playing sylvan library, which I cut also.
    Also, the...
  19. Thread: [Primer] Elves!

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    Re: [Primer] Elves!

    D&T is a bye. No need for progenitus, just bring in decay and jitte if you play it, needle effects.
    They cannot really punish you.

    I think progenitus is really just a wasted SB slot.
  20. Thread: [Primer] Elves!

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    Re: [Primer] Elves!

    I beg to disagree. This package is quite strong. I would even run a third crop with it and a Ruric if you run NO (crop makes T2 NO quite easy).

    I think karakas is especially handy as leovold is...
  21. Thread: [Primer] Elves!

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    Re: [Primer] Elves!

    My experience against miracle is that often you have a couple of guys.
    They are however not enough, and SCM/stp is as scary as terminus.
    Nissa survives after terminus, here is the advantage. ...
  22. Thread: [Primer] Elves!

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    Re: [Primer] Elves!

    Lemnear, I think your focus on 0 creatures in play mislead you.
    It is quite common to have a couple of creatures against miracle.
    Preboard we have 20 lands, craddle may make more than one mana,...
  23. Thread: [Primer] Elves!

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    Re: [Primer] Elves!

    Lemnear is right about not enabling T2 prdgychild. If you want a card that does, have a look at crop rotation.

    I have trouble to see how Nissa is much better than garruck v1. One mana cheaper,...
  24. Thread: [Primer] Elves!

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    Re: [Primer] Elves!

    I fully disagree on that.

    On the most basic level: you can play any number of NOs. When playing 3 or 4, it is better to add a second target MD as well (2nd hoof, ruric, other).

    But you can...
  25. Thread: [Primer] Elves!

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    Re: [Primer] Elves!

    So now you are encouraging thread readers to troll to obtain a new tube?[/QUOTE]

    Together we shall prevail, fellow elves players, and get what we rightfully deserve.
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