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I see most people cutting intuition and transmute artifact. What's the reasoning for this? In the past those are really the two cards that made URx a real contender over R/Rw for me.


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Tezz has a much easier matchup vs miracles than painter. Chalice, thopter / sword and tezz himself are incredibly hard for miracles to deal with.

Removal + counter spells / counterbalance...

Been playing a lot of UBr tezz lately.

But painter remains one of my favorite cards and archetypes. And the decks share a lot in common.

When looking to update UR painter here I would highly...

Dig through time is far better than treasure cruise in combo decks


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In this meta I think red or red/white painter are much stronger suited. The blue does not offer any legitimate upgrades of advantages over imperial painter. And the benefits of blood moon far out...

This is true... but Ur can also play Moons in the sideboard.

The only similarity between these decks is the combo pieces. The way they play, good and bad matchups are very different. Ur also...

I went back to mono red iPainter. Meta shift to greedy tempo decks are great for mono red.

I struggled with UR painter against blue temp decks. So right now, I don't think its a great choice.
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Spot on. Probe might assist in narrow instances, but not as an overall solution.


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MB Bridge: this is quite common in mono red and very effective. Could easily replace wurmcoil engine as the creature hate. Auto lose to burn now though :). (Is that even worth considering). Also...

Oh lol! That's awesome, they would never see it coming!


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Play a different deck :(

But seriously. The rise of tempo decks, which at inherently good against combo is becoming a problem. UWR delver is nearly unwinnable.

Im a little sad over this...

Bump

Per my last response... finally I'll talk my list in comparison to Merfolkotpt

Current list I'm playing
0x Blood Moon (-3)
4x Ensnaring Bridge (+1)
2x Tormod's Crypt
3x Fluster...

You are just a few cards off my 75. I'll post a list and discuss further when I get a chance.


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I have yet to test against a TNN deck. But I would bring in bridges at my current thinking. I feel like right now we great them just like RUG/BUG/Jund. Esperblade is a whole nother' animal. I...

Sounds pretty solid.

I have a 3rd flusterstorm over the venser in the SB (personal preference), and I bring in the crypts for the win (arguable that this matters, since we're not trying to combo...

Awesome! Now we're havin a discussion!

Wurmcoil and tempo: I can definetely see what you are saying here. Decks such as RUG/BUG can't answer a resovled/weldered in Wurmcoil Engine. I shall...

Well... I guess if it comes down to if anyone having a discussion with you is insulting you, and you already know better than I because of your experience and grand intelligence, then sir... I must...

This I don't get.

1) TNN decks... sure Wurmcoil can't block. But I would side these out here anyway trying to force the combo through. Bring in Bridges to deal with tempo/tnn decks if you need...

I really only got to use it as faithless looting a few times... which was pretty good. The biggest reason I play it is because it does 3 relevant things that I can choose from depending on the...

GP DC Results

Here's the list I registered:

Creatures:10
4 Goblin Welder
4 Painter's Servant
2 Wurmcoil Engine

Spells:30

Abrupt decay shouldn't be a problem because of welder. 7 removal over 8 turns is an anomaly, you can't judge results based on that one match.

Bring in spellskite outta the board. I ran 3 and it...

Thanks! This is good to know

Unless they have two progenituses (progeniti?) you can still win the game with the combo. The progenitus just becomes the only card left in their library. Then they draw it, then the next turn they...

I agree with blood moon. Just too many auto wins. I play 3 in the board and I swear I want to play 4 sometimes.

In regards to koby's list though. I'm trying out the izzet charm in place of my...

Thanks, I've debated the LED, but has saved me a few times due to 0 cost, or needing to dump an artifact.

As for the crypt. I also agree! I have since gone, -1 Top, +1 Crypt or Nihil Spell...