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    Re: [DTB] Miracle Control

    I mostly encounter versions featuring liliana(Their best card against miracles imho) and punishing fire, the versions i encounter without these cards are not the ones i am worried about.
    I wonder...
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    Re: [DTB] Miracle Control

    One thing i don't understand: Why are you boarding Force of will out?
    Ęther vial is such a beating, and force of will is one of the best ways of shutting it down.
    On the subject of ęther vial in...
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    Re: [DTB] Miracle Control

    Anyone know where i can find a guide to the death and taxes and nic fit match ups?

    I have a plan against nic fit, but against death and taxes i really am at a loss.

    All my cards seems terrible...
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    Re: [DTB] Miracle Control

    This is going to sound insane....But, against infect i sideboard counterbalance out.

    There are two ways i can loose to infect, either they get a fast nutdraw or they beat me to death with the...
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    Re: [DTB] Miracle Control

    I was wondering if the lack of council's judgment in the main was ever a problem?
    You have pretty much adjusted your old ponder list to a heavy delver meta, cutting counterspell, judgment (Broad,...
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    Re: [DTB] Miracle Control

    Wait what, that was your suggestion not mine. I specifically said that i thought counterbalance was an end-game card against them because it does not deal with their early threats.
    You where the one...
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    Re: [DTB] Miracle Control

    Finally some people i can agree with. Now i just need to know how to actually pull it off, which is exactly what i am having problems with.

    My full deck list is:

    Lands: 21
    4 Flooded strand
    4...
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    Re: [DTB] Miracle Control

    my issue is that they go first, drop delver, then i take my turn and drop a land and perhaps a cantrip (Even if i have plow i would consider it wrong to play it here, rather than wait for daze...
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    Re: [DTB] Miracle Control

    Well, great! Then tell me how to beat those decks.

    I find both of the miracle cards to be clunky and hard to resolve, jace does very little (4 mana). If they go first my counterbalance is pretty...
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    Re: [DTB] Miracle Control

    What are people's experiences with stoneforge + batterskull vs. delver of secret aggro-control decks ?

    Delver decks are by far my worst match-ups.
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    Re: [Primer/Deck] High Tide, version, Spiral Tide

    Because, i thought that legacy high tide was called solidarity.

    When i saw this thread i figured that legacy players worldwide decided that high tide was a better name for the deck (Which it is!)...
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    Re: [Primer/Deck] High Tide, version, Spiral Tide

    You see, i thought this was the Solidarity thread :P
    Legacy decks need better naming i think.
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    Re: [Primer/Deck] High Tide

    Yes, thats what i was considering. Snap and/or reset to untap. Meditate to draw cards, snapcasters could also make a more controllish approach possible.

    Oh, and it can win at instant speed too!
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    Re: [DTB] Miracle Control

    Has anyone tried a few personal tutors? (1-2)
    It shuffles, it gets terminus, it gets entreat, it gets council's judgment.
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    Re: [Primer/Deck] High Tide

    So, how good is high tide with snapcaster mages and no candelabra?
    Possibly with no time spirals either? Has anyone tried, and was it any good?
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    Re: [DTB] Miracle Control

    Don't worry. I am going to. I will of course report back if i ever faced any issue at all with the bolt. (Which won't happen)
    And for the record: i am not running basic mountain because of lightning...
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    Re: [DTB] Miracle Control

    But what clique does not do, that bolt does does, is both provide an answer to early creatures as well as being good against planeswalkers.


    Lets break the problem down:
    Fetching nonbasics...
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    Re: [DTB] Miracle Control

    Well, does anyone else run bolt? :)
    If no one uses it, of course it does not get into the top8.

    Short list of early game plays that bolt does not kill: Nimble mongoose (plow has no effect...
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    Re: [DTB] Miracle Control

    You seem very focused on TNN. Honestly, i was worried about that when i picked the deck up. But after just 1 match against it, i realized that it is not very good against miracles. Because of one...
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    Re: [DTB] Miracle Control

    Why would you run o-ring over council's judgment? Are you that worried about double white?

    Also, do you really need 6 one mana removal spells? I find that just 4 plows is usually more than i need....
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    Re: [DTB] Miracle Control

    Oh i definitely agree that i am probably taking too much time with the top, but that will be reduced with more practice i assume. However, more entreats should allow for quicker games thus decreasing...
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    Re: [DTB] Miracle Control

    I am strongly considering a third entreat because i go to time almost every round :)
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    Re: [DTB] Miracle Control

    In a tournament setting, the clock is an issue. This alone would suggest that a powerful early threat could be good.
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    Re: [DTB] Miracle Control

    What is SFM? stone forge mystic ?
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    Re: [DTB] Miracle Control

    I am currently pondering if i should run rest in peace or relic of progenitus.
    I am running 3 snapcaster mages, and RIP has very poor synergy with the mages.

    Why did you opt for RIP? :)
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