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    Re: [Deck] Turbo Depths

    i think it might see play in turbo version but it is not good enough for hogaakDepth
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    Re: [Deck] Turbo Depths

    went 4-1 and 5-0 today with this list on mtgo league, so yeah the deck is good man.

    You can even have turn 2 hogaak + marit lage turn one stitcher 3 card in grave turn two crop fetch urborg/depth...
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    Re: [Deck] Turbo Depths

    8/8 trample turn 2 with cabal backup is pretty frequent,

    or turn 3 20/20+8/8



    EDIT previous list : in testing nurturing peatland is a better card than llanowar waste and winding way is...
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    Re: [Deck] Turbo Depths

    ok did some leagues 3-2 4-1 lost to 2 aggro loam decks 0-2 and 1-2 in first league and to one miracle 1-2 in second.

    Beat rug delver, echo stuff, BUG tempo in first league ; second league rug...
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    Re: [Deck] Turbo Depths

    yeah it is brew, it is only vulenarble to karakas and wastelock that's why there is needle in side.

    you have multiple angle of attack, you have hogaak which can be put into play as soosn as turn...
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    Re: [Deck] Turbo Depths

    This deck destroys the format and might result with a ban trust man :


    // 60 Maindeck
    // 22 Creature
    4 Vampire Hexmage
    4 Elvish Reclaimer
    4 Hogaak, Arisen Necropolis
    4 Stitcher's Supplier
    4...
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    Re: [Deck] Turbo Depths

    I am testing elvish reclaimer in my list and it looks really good, it is therapy fooder + crop + safekeeper in just one card man !

    EDIT :

    tested whitout library and was not happy whith this...
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    Re: [Deck] Turbo Depths

    force of vigor might see play in side for moon stompy/artifacts decks.
    You don't even need green to cast it ! Might take the decay slot but not sure yet, testing will tell !
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    Re: [Deck] Turbo Depths

    explosion zone will clearly see plays in depth at least a one off maindeck, finally a land that can kill everything from needle to b2b, bridge balance creatures...
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    Re: [DTB] Turbo Depths

    they should enter disenchant/council judgement for your library so needle is not good against jtms, also a resolve library if not answer in the turn is draw 3 while they have all the time of the...
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    Re: [DTB] Turbo Depths

    Here is my latest list, I tryied 3 garden but four is better, the online meta has a lot of graveards decks so i switched for bog main and leave one maze (second maze was mainly for death and taxes...
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    Re: [DTB] Turbo Depths

    the role of maze is too be wasted so that you can combo off safely when you don't have the needle on wasteland.

    if they don't waste you can slow them down by copying it with stage, and if they...
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    Re: [DTB] Turbo Depths

    it seems you dindn't test enough the storm matchup 9 discard is not enough against storm, but with cabal therapy I am fine that baically double the numbr of discard.
    Against ichorid led ichorid...
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    Re: [DTB] Turbo Depths

    I had an other 5-0 (third one) with previous build, but now I m testing warping wail 2 main 2 side and I am liking them, the deck is a little weak to combo decks and I can't spalsh blue for...
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    Re: [DTB] Turbo Depths

    got an other 5-0 on mtgo list will be published soon hopefully beating death and taxes merfolk, gobelin, storm and the antiquies war.
    changed the mana confluence into blooming marsh added 2 toxic...
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    Re: [DTB] Turbo Depths

    Against death and taxes the plan is to copy maze with stage or bring the second maze stall then toxic deluge the board ; that wins the match yes.
    When you have 3-4 maze they need to developp lot of...
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    Re: [DTB] Turbo Depths

    maze of ith is good agaisnt every creaturish decks, eldrazi, death and taxes, delver.decks, grixis control, stoneblade.decks, goblin, reanimator might be ok, humans, infect...
    karakas is good...
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    Re: [DTB] Turbo Depths

    In the league if I can remember I have beaten storm (which is a better matchup with cabal therapy and 10 discards main), death and taxes, grixis control, enchantress twice (which is a hard matchup...
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    Re: [DTB] Turbo Depths

    you want to cut the petal for garden. There is no need of acceleration in this deck, format is slow. the thing is more discard is better than more acceleration so with therapy you have double discard...
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    Re: [DTB] Turbo Depths

    i have got a 5-0 on mtgo here : https://www.mtggoldfish.com/archetype/legacy-bg-64945#paper had also a 3-2 and 4-1
    can't remember what i beat but it was good decks.
    though I dont have all the cards...
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    Re: [DTB] Turbo Depths

    Did anyone tested winter orb i side ? He seems to be playing two of them for which matchups ? control I guess ?
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    Re: [DTB] Turbo Depths

    confidant is better than map (it bascially takes this spot) against miracle and death and taxes but it is worse against fast decks like tempo decks, eldrazi, grixis control and not playing needle but...
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    Re: [DTB] Turbo Depths

    did you test khalni garden main *3 at least ? with cabal therapy it is awesome also it protects from edict. I am fine with my list right now, went 3-1-1 in last tornament 2-0 grixis control 1-2...
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    Re: [DTB] Turbo Depths

    R1 vs Maverick 2-0
    R2 vs B2B Miracles 2-0
    R3 vs Infect 1-2
    R4 vs Grixis Control 2-0
    R5 ID
    QF vs Elves 2-0
    SF vs UW Delver 2-0
    Finals vs Infect 0-2 same guy that beat me R3

    looking at the...
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    Re: [DTB] Turbo Depths

    yeah in the meta tempo doesn't see so much play maybe it is time to put these needles in side and add some surgical maindeck for all these graveyards deck/combo decks/control deck (snappy) ?
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