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well :-) we can all get rid of that 4-5 sb cards we had just for Miracles and focus on our other foes.

same here and it feels smooth and solid (used to play 3 Bayous and no Marshes).

regarding Rite of Consumption - what is the line of play as it is a sorcery so no reactive play? I assume you make a...

Explosive game one but it is so painful to watch it from the Miracles player perspective. That deck is so boring.

happens to me also a lot since I have them foiled in Japanese :laugh:

I tried the EM 2.0 package against two Miracle decks and it didn't go very well. It WILL get countered, cards will get hidden and it won't make that much impact on the game as I hoped it would. By...

Forgive me. I always thought your choices (manabase, Spheres) are made for budget but if they work fine for you I am very happy and rush with congratulations.

So for EM2.0 - you need to sneak Eye...

as a one off? also not searchable by fetches but, whatever suits you.

I am testing 4 Urborgs now and I will probably keep them. Tired of colorless hands.

Next in line for testing - 4 main...

Looks really solid but why that Marsh instead of third Bayou? I kind of dislike Maps as well, might want to try that 3 ItN approach?

what do you mean by that? do you mean that this is a poor man's choice deck and you shouldn't play against it often so dont bother? or do you mean you always have your token faster than they kill...

Thrun, The Last Troll?

Chalice rips UR delver and burn. I also side it in against Lands and Reanimator depending whether on play. Depending what you play against I would side out Crops or some discard.

Also I played...

not much can be done apart from discarding it. You might consider Steely Resolve though.

If you cut the Swamp is there a legitimate reason to run any fetches just to pick up 1 Bayou or 1 Forest? You seem to have thin chances against Blood Moon since you don't even run Expedition Maps....

may I ask have you at least tried the Chalices? personally I would never replace Chalices for Spheres in Miracle or Reanimator matchup. BR Reanimator plays SSG and Petals so it can get through Sphere...

I think I have this match extensively covered by testing with my brother who owns it and I can say that I wouldn't bother to bring anything except 3-4 Extractions and maybe Karakas (depends on...

that is some extensive and very helpful insight. Thanks!

why not Massacre? Thinking of it instead of Gloom which is good only as played in the first two turns.

My exact list apart from extra Duress in place of second map. I will test it next month in Birmingham Manaleak challenge. Great report, do you remember what did you side in an out against certain...

Hello all. New ML disciple.

Has anyone playing Turbo version tried Blooming Marshes yet? Also saw a guy's list with rather unusual sb card: Gloom. I guess it is a way to make miracling a Terminus...