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I still don't understand using Vine Dryad over Basking Rootwalla if you want a free, green dork?

Gigapede is an ok card, it's a subtle way of maximizing the value of your starting hand by...

Vine Dryad seems like a cute idea, probably worse than Basking Rootwalla but there might be some funny list where you play both for turbo Hogaak.

You're going to lose too much time to dredging 2, playing Dakmor Salvage and activating Ashen Ghoul, what makes Silversmote Ghoul good is that it doesn't cost you 4 Dredge or reduce your hand size.
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With the Creeping Chill and Silversmote package, does anyone else find themselves SBing out Narcomoebas at all? I generally cut the Dread Return targets before anything else, but whenever I'm...

whoops, my bad.

The combo kill creature seems like a small part of the deck to bother micro managing, I've tested most of them and still think just being black for Hogaak/Ichorid is probably more important than how...

Removing Street Wraith is cheeky, but you'd probably increase your average speed and redundancy with Creeping Chill and Silversmote Ghoul that way. Cutting Shambling Shell is always a red flag for...

If Bloodghast wasn't good enough for Manaless, then I doubt Silversmote Ghoul is. While Creeping Chill is an improvement on Dakmor Salavage, the problem is that the deck can hardly afford to cut 8...

It's garbage, Sickening Shoal has most of the same benefits and you can top deck it to remove a hate bear that is already on the board.

The most important thing is do not become one of those people who only play the deck in auto-pilot mode and only get wins whenever they're uncontested in game 1, a lot of the skill of the deck comes...

Generally speaking they are bad, anything that doesn't feed Ichorid and Hogaak or activate Nether Shadow needs a really good reason to be in the deck. If you flip off Spy then they are win more, if...

lol, the logics right there.

It isn't a big deal either way, but I don't see a reason to play a red creature in a deck with Hogaak at all.

The 2/2 split on Spy/Giant is just better, 4 black cards instead of 3 or 2 and more resilent to Crypt effects.

What's the point of Vine Dryad when you could just play Basking Rootwalla? You're RFGing a resource instead of just playing a free creature off of Phantasmagorian or your discard phase?

I am actually really surprised that you haven't seen this, if you do the math on the odds of having Street Wraith in hand or a second Dedger with only 12 in the deck it's not that bad of a chance to...

People will gamble on extracting the first dredger, because if you don't have another then you're stuck in top deck mode. Stripping business out of the deck tends to be a lost cause, you are so...

Experience matters, you're replacing the engine of a deck with a card that can be countered or discarded, that is completely antithetical to what makes the deck strong vs its good match ups.

I...

I think I've played this deck longer than anyone else on this site, the people who cut Shambling Shells generally have little to no experience actually playing through hate. Combo creatures, Dread...

A Dread Return, a combo creature, a Hogaak Arisen Acropolis and a Phantasmagorian is a good start, those are the lowest value cards in the deck fwiw. You do not cut Dredgers if you want to play...

Both are ok, at the moment I just like looking for the best possible lists vs blue.dec for consistency.

His list is kind of all over the place, I've been running Dryad Arbor instead of the combo package for awhile and liking it tho'. Reverent Silence is still too inconsistent IMO.

Leyline of Combustion is definitely worth talking about, that's now eight Leylines you can SB vs Storm and dropping multiple, different Leylines off of your starting hand is going to give Echoing...

I think it's legit tech, I used it awhile ago for Leyline of Sanctity.

[QUOTE=Emeraldjsk;1071235]With the new mulligan I believe we probably want to be on the unmask game plan. The opponent is going to mulligan to their hate piece, we will mulligan to our anti-hate in...