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Oooh! Very interesting! Thanks!

Where did you see this exactly? Is there any listing or footage?

I think it's worth to people that don't want to hop on the Discord-train. I mean, I'm active there all day (as Arafúra), but I can imagine there are still folks out there that don't use Discord or...

- https://discord.gg/GuBX4wd

Here's an interview with Tomas Mar (the creator of Czech Pile) at MKM that was taking place yesterday and today.
He talks about the DRS banning and the future of the Legacy meta and the future of...

I think we can keep this thread going. The Grixis lists, at least, are very much Pile-like in nature and they're basically just Pile without DRS and Leovold. BUG lists still vary a lot, some going...

I think we have pretty good matchups vs D&T en Blade decks in general (depending on the list), but Miracles is going to be harder without Leovold, Library, Decay and Hymn. Bitterblossom can be quite...

Yeah, I was surprised as well, though I do have to say that if RUG Delver is going to be T1, the list he was running did seem a little clunky, but that could also be due to him boarding out the...

LSV on the new 'Pile':
- https://www.twitch.tv/videos/282389436

Don't get me wrong. I'm not saying this couldn't work, but I'm exactly in the camp you seem to be: Possibly slightly more basics and definitely turn 1 interaction like TS / IoK. We're not Miracles,...

This looks like Pile, minus Leovold and DRS and with those slots filled with 2 Gurmag, Counterspell and some upped numbers on K-Command and Push (depends on which version you ran, of course). This...

I'm currently on 22 land. I feel staying on 20 land is way too hopeful.

https://i.imgur.com/ZOJb6Js.jpg

I'm going to fuck around a bit with a Grixis Thieves list, just for the hell of it, seeing as nothing is settled anyways.

[LANDS : 22]
2 Island
1 Swamp
1...

So, you're proposing a more midrange-y version of Grixis Delver? Like the ol' BUG Delver, with Hymns and such? That could be interesting, though in the past when we had BUG Delver as one of the T1...

Huh? Sultai Leovold has always played DRS.

Yeah, I feel going Grixis is definitely the way to go. I think we can still make this work and keep stuff like Strix, Snap, Hymn, K-Command and even Jace rolling. Losing DRS is going to be a major...

That too I can comment on. I switched over to the 3x Goyf SBplan a little over a month ago and I'm actually really happy with 'em!

I'll quote myself from a few pages back:
"I went to the Dutch...

He was actually playing full duals for a while, if I'm not mistaken.


I think 3 Hymn is a sweet, sweet spot. Hymn in itself can be a wincon, especially when going Hymn, Snap -> Hymn. It's not...

Indeed. And I think having the potential to increase the clock with a Goyf while Hymning and Thoughtseizing does more than Strix's would in that matchup.

I'll add my sideboard-planning vs. the field.



vs Grixis Delver:

OTP:
-4 FoW
-2 Thoughtseize
-1 Abrupt Decay

Yeah, that would definitely be nice! I'd be interested seeing how other people board seeing as there are definitely viable different boarding plans.

For me, personally; I feel all those Grixis and BUG lists are pretty much Pile, but just dropping one of the splashes; either Red or Green. The core and the 2-for-1-mentality is basically the same...

So, in regards to the Goyfs:
I went to the Dutch Open Series today and jammed 3 Goyf in the SB as of yesterday (after some playtesting) and while I wasn't paired versus any Delver-variants, I did...

An interesting read on BBD's take on Goyf in the board for Grixis Delver and Chalice matchups:
- http://magic.tcgplayer.com/db/article.asp?ID=14654&writer=Brian+Braun-Duin&articledate=5-24-2018

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Well, I just stated Chalice as a possible option, something they might have. When I don't know what I'm up against (so, let's not say we're playtesting with a group or friends), I will always fire TS...